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B-Scott Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: Would you take on Marbury's contract if you could get Frye? |
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if the Knicks told you we will trade you frye,but you have to take on Marbury's contract. Would you accept.
OUTGOING
Devon george
Luke walton
Aaron mckie
Slava medvedenko
Chris mihm
1# pick from Miami
INCOMING
Channing frye
Marbury
Ariza
C Kwame/Bynum
PF Frye/Cook/Turiaff
SF Lamar/ariza/green
G Kobe/ smush/wafer
G Marbury/sasha
Marbury could shine if he played with a superstar who drew double and triple teams. Steph wouldnt have to beat 2 and 3 guys off the dribble all the time. He would have more 1 on 1 matchups playing alongside kobe and Lamar odom. Porblem with Steph is he is not a franshize type player who can carry a bad team,but could shine on a team with a superstar who drew a lot of attention. Plus with kobe's intensity and fire rubbing off on Steph. This could work.Steph wants to win,he just needs to be in the right situation.
Occassionally you can go small for short stretches. With frye and cook in at the same time to stretch the defense.
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bambam Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: |
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yes |
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Socks Franchise Player
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 10761 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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In a heartbeat - I let steph play to get his value back up then look to deal him for a big man ASAP and you get channing out of the deal. |
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AirKobe8 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: |
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I'd rather take on both, Grant Hill's and Steve Francis bad contracts if it meant getting Dwight Howard, he already is doulbe the player Frye will ever be. _________________ www.lakersbrasil.com
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KobeButler Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:07 am Post subject: |
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no. we would just become the new york knicks of the west.
just a reminder for everyone...Marbury's contract reaches the 20 mil per year mark. _________________ Pain is temporary, at the end of pain is success... |
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And 1 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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No.
Although I was willing to take on Jalen Rose's contract for a chance to get Bosh, I'm unsure if I'm willing to take on so many years of Marbury for Frye. |
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Lionel The Laker Star Player
Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 2660
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Its not going to happen. Stop listening to Howard Beck. Mitch is not even talking to the Knicks. |
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Walter Sobchak Star Player
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 4520 Location: Hollywood, Ca.
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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KobeButler wrote: | no. we would just become the new york knicks of the west.
just a reminder for everyone...Marbury's contract reaches the 20 mil per year mark. |
Agreed. You don't take on a contract like Marbury's unless it guarantees you a championship, and there's no way that this trade would do that. _________________ "People don't think it be like it is, but it do." - Oscar Gamble
Just a reminder folks: "a lot" is two words. So is "no one". |
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senator kobe Starting Rotation
Joined: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 521 Location: Irvine
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Isiah would be hung from the rafters if he did this.
Seriously, DG, Luke, Mckie, Slava? _________________ What? Never mind... |
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Unabogie Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I'd do this in a heartbeat. Marbury is still a good player, even though he is struggling, and I'd take him over Smush any day.
But Frye is really a nice offensive player. Add him to a front line of Brown/Bynum/Odom, and you have a reallt potent lineup, but now you have viable players at every spot.
Have to say losing Mihm will hurt, though...but Channing Frye will be an allstar, IMO. |
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Ozendorph Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I think it's hillarious how coveted Frye has become. Pre-draft that guy was soft as mashed potatoes and a first round flop just waiting to happen.
Anyway, I wouldn't do it. Frye is clearly a solid player, but Starbury would be a huge albatross, and I imagine the friction he'd generate with both Phil and Kobe would set Staples on fire. Marbury makes Francis look like Kidd, lol. _________________ Dumbledore closed his eyes and slowly lowered his head before Kupchak. "Teach me," he whispered. |
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DaggerInTheHeart Star Player
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 1459 Location: Sunshine State
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Lionel The Laker wrote: | Its not going to happen. Stop listening to Howard Beck. Mitch is not even talking to the Knicks. |
So who is he talking to? |
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TACH Retired Number
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 28461 Location: Chillin on the Delaware.. from the Jersey Side
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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This is what's left on Steph contract starting with this season:
Stephon Marbury
05/06 - $16,453,125
06/07 - $18,281,250
07/08 - $20,109,375
08/09 - $21,937,500
How many different ways can you say HELL NO to any deal that involves Steph (and the current Knicks)...
Quote: | Some more info:
Early Career
After a successful freshman year playing for Georgia Tech, he declared his intention to jump to the NBA. Many were amazed that after a full year in college he still didn't know his school's name, calling it Georgia Tech University (the correct name is Georgia Institute of Technology). He was selected fourth overall by the Milwaukee Bucks in the 1996 NBA Draft, then traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves for the draft rights to Ray Allen and a future first-round pick. In his first season in the league, Marbury averaged 15.8 points and 7.8 assists per game and was named to the 1997 All-Rookie Team. He, along with Kevin Garnett, led the Timerwolves to the NBA playoffs in 1997 and 1998. During the lockout shortened 1999 season, Marbury was traded to the New Jersey Nets after a falling out with Minnesota over contract problems.
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New Jersey and Phoenix
After two uneventful years in New Jersey, Marbury was traded to the Phoenix Suns for fellow point guard Jason Kidd. He led the team to the playoffs in 2003, and it seemed Marbury had finally found a home as he clicked with teammates Shawn Marion and promising rookie Amare Stoudemire. However, Stoudemire injured himself in the beginning of the 2003-2004 season, and Phoenix struggled to a 3-15 start.
While a member of the Suns, Marbury was arrested for driving under the influence. A police report stated that Marbury was clocked at 75 mph in a 50 mph zone his speech was slurred and his breath smelled like alcohol. Marbury had a blood alcohol level of .153. He pled no contest to extreme DUI, served 10 days in jail and attended alcohol education classes. This arrest was seen as a possible motive for Marburys trade to New York, as the team just got over the incident of Jason Kidd's arrest. |
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postandpivot Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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NO, NO, and NO.
Frye aint that good. sorry to tell you. at least not yet. NO, NO and NO again. you can keep Starbury's ridiculous contract. |
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angel Franchise Player
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 14226 Location: city of angels
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Marbury isn't quite the prototype triangle PG. Frye is a good player, but a move like this locks the Lakers into some major contracts that would prevent any major free agent move. _________________ "Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that." ~~Martin Luther King Jr.~~ |
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orwell Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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No. Marbury is a locker room cancer. Next please... :roll: _________________ A proud member of LakersGround.net for over 10 years [since April 28, 2001] |
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FerrisVille Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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you know just to play along, I know this deal would never happen because Odom would have to be part of this deal, no way would the Lakers have 3 collosal contracts.
In a perfect world this would be great. It would be a deadly lineup of potential, which by the way Phil could get the most of them as players.
Marbury
Kobe
Odom
Cook
Brown
a nice young athletic bench
Frye
Bynum
Ariza
Smush
Turiaf
Sasha
Wafer
Green
I'd love that team, but that Marbury contract is so freaking huge. And whoever called this team the Knicks of the west is a fool.
1. Kobe is on this team, the Knicks don't have anything that comes close to him.
2. The roster would be fantastic unlike the knicks undersized roster. |
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FerrisVille Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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orwell wrote: | No. Marbury is a locker room cancer. Next please... :roll: | Orwell, Im not a Marbury fan but I will say that I don't see him as a cancer, the dude proclaimed himself the best PG in the game, I love the in a player, what I dont love is a player proclaiming that and then not showing it on the court.
Do you know of any instances why he would be labeled a cancer, Im just curious. |
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CrimsonLaker Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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this is one trade I'd do. Marbury and Kobe would fit together I think. Bynum and Frye on the inside. I think a Marbury/Kobe/Odom/Frye combo would be awesome for years to come. Titles all around. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Talking of the Knicks,Phil needs to give a list of players that he would like to have like Zeke and Lb did |
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ncaugnit Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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No. I wouldn't do that.
not for all the kush in the world.
well.....on second thought, yes......yes I would do it for all the kush in the world _________________ The Squeaky Wheel Gets Gasol.
Thanks Kobe.
GO LAKERS!!!!! |
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FerrisVille Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | Talking of the Knicks,Phil needs to give a list of players that he would like to have like Zeke and Lb did | that is Zeke trying to get Larry to take the fall when that idea falls apart. |
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angel Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Larry Brown loves Lamar Odom's unselfish game. The only way they would want to give up Frye is to get Odom. _________________ "Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that." ~~Martin Luther King Jr.~~ |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm getting really sick of these ridiculous trade proposals. Do you really think we could get Channing Fry--a budding all-star--for garbage? The Knicks give us their two biggest stars for one starter (who would come off the bench for most teams) and filler? The Knicks don't give two s***s about cutting payroll. If the Knicks trade Frye, it's gonna be for TALENT. Do you know what talent is? It's not worthless Luke Walton and busted-ass Aaron Mckie. Don't even bother with these ridiculous posts. |
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KobeButler Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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gp5 wrote: |
I'd love that team, but that Marbury contract is so freaking huge. And whoever called this team the Knicks of the west is a fool.
1. Kobe is on this team, the Knicks don't have anything that comes close to him.
2. The roster would be fantastic unlike the knicks undersized roster. |
i was more referring to the contract situations. _________________ Pain is temporary, at the end of pain is success... |
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