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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:59 am Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: |
You said "floor spacing " so why are you using FG%, and (my god) FT%?
Anyway, are you seriously not expecting Lonzo to improve his 3-pt shooting to where he's not more of a threat than friggin' Rondo? |
I brought up all shooting stats to show it's not just 3pt shooting Rondo is better at. He's overall the better shooter, in every shooting stat available.
Like I've said twice already. I hope Lonzo is good enough to start over Rondo. That would be a good problem to have. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 11591 Location: Stay Thirsty my Friends
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:01 am Post subject: |
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With the Lakers versatility, they could do a lot of switching, depending on who's hot and the competition:
C - [Lopez], McGee, Zubac, Wagner
PF - James, Kuzma, Ingram, Deng
SF - Ingram, Kuzma, Stephenson, Hart, Deng
SG - Caldwell Pope, Hart, Ingram, Mykhailiuk
PG - Ball, Rondo, Ingram _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: |
I love this signing not because I'm a big fan of Rondo but because it will create competition for Ball to earn his playing time.
And in the overall picture the Lakers have two viable PGs to run the team, get assists and play solid defense. Both have shown flashes of being able to hit open catch and shoot 3's too. They are likely to get plenty of opportunities to make them. They just need to deliver. |
Same. I've been making Rondo-Lonzo comparisons for a while now. So happy we have both of them. With their similarities, we'll have consistency at the PG position. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:04 am Post subject: |
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My closing lineup would be
Zo
Hart or KCP
BI
Kuz
Lebron.
Hopefully BIs 3 point shot got better cause he’s the better player and defender between he and Kuz but I see why they’d start Kuz just cause he can shoot and he’s a better off the ball player. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:13 am Post subject: |
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The ALL IQ line up
Rondo
Lonzo
Hart
Ingram
Lebron |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 38954
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:27 am Post subject: |
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I see us playing a lot of positionless basketball....We have 3 starter level forwards and I can see them on the court together a lot. |
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slavavov Star Player
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 8478 Location: Santa Monica
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:30 am Post subject: |
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If Ball improves his shooting enough, is it possible that we may play him at the 2 a little to create more playing time for Rondo, especially late in the season and in the playoffs? _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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parsons777 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:38 am Post subject: |
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unleasHell wrote: | With the Lakers versatility, they could do a lot of switching, depending on who's hot and the competition:
C - [Lopez], McGee, Zubac, Wagner
PF - James, Kuzma, Ingram, Deng
SF - Ingram, Kuzma, Stephenson, Hart, Deng
SG - Caldwell Pope, Hart, Ingram, Mykhailiuk
PG - Ball, Rondo, Ingram |
Yes, clone Kuzma over the Summer and just tell people he is the long lost twin, like it! |
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parsons777 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:53 am Post subject: |
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I prefer to think about minutes:
JaVale C (15)
Kuzma PF (26) SF (8) [total 34]
James SF (20) PF (8) C (6) [total 34]
Ingram SG (22) SF (6) PF (6) [total 34]
Zo PG (26)
Rondo PG (18)
KCP SG (14) PG (4) [total 18]
Zu C (15)
Wagner C (12)
Pick 'em:
Hart, Mykhailiuk, Stephenson, Deng SG (12) PF (8)
I do not want James even to see 36 minutes and only 6 or so minutes as the "C" in a really small ball lineup.
I like Hart ( thank you for reminding me about him ) but I put him in the grab bag at the end because we are paying KCP too much for him not to be the backup SG, assuming BI can start at SG.
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blackmamba08 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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parsons777 wrote: | I prefer to think about minutes:
JaVale C (15)
Kuzma PF (26) SF (8) [total 34]
James SF (20) PF (8) C (6) [total 34]
Ingram SG (22) SF (6) PF (6) [total 34]
Zo PG (26)
Rondo PG (18)
KCP SG (14) PG (4) [total 18]
Zu C (15)
Wagner C (12)
Deng PF (8)
Mykhailiuk SG (6)
Stephenson SG (6)
I do not want James even to see 36 minutes and only 6 or so minutes as the "C" in a really small ball lineup. |
Agree more or less but where is the Hart? He is better player than KCP at this moment. |
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parsons777 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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blackmamba08 wrote: | parsons777 wrote: | I prefer to think about minutes:
JaVale C (15)
Kuzma PF (26) SF (8) [total 34]
James SF (20) PF (8) C (6) [total 34]
Ingram SG (22) SF (6) PF (6) [total 34]
Zo PG (26)
Rondo PG (18)
KCP SG (14) PG (4) [total 18]
Zu C (15)
Wagner C (12)
Deng PF (8)
Mykhailiuk SG (6)
Stephenson SG (6)
I do not want James even to see 36 minutes and only 6 or so minutes as the "C" in a really small ball lineup. |
Agree more or less but where is the Hart? He is better player than KCP at this moment. |
Oops, editing |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe you can even toss in Deng at center for a few minutes, but Lebron has worked miracles with traditional centers before. I'm looking for Zu and Mcgee to have CLE Moz type numbers on the PnR this season. |
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Black Sheep Starting Rotation
Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 807 Location: Wawa
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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We somehow need to sign James Jones. That's the x factor and guaranteed ticket to the finals. |
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1hu2ren3dui4 Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Jul 2002 Posts: 15403 Location: Oak Park
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Lebron
Some young bucks
Noa flotsam and jetsam. |
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Joe Pesci Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:48 pm Post subject: Who Ends Games? |
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Against the Death Lineup of the Warriors, who ends the game on this team as presently constructed?
What about against Houston, Boston and Phila?
Starting is so overrated. Who ends games on this team? _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter. |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Rondo/Ingram/Lebron/Kuzma/Lopez
OUR "death" lineup _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024 |
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2017 Summer League Champs Starting Rotation
Joined: 30 Jun 2018 Posts: 247
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Never really understood the "death lineup" concept. Why not just start with that lineup if it's so deadly? But we have no C and supposedly Kuzma has bulked up so: Lonzo/KCP/Ingram/Lebron/Kuzma. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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We don't have a center yet so it's hard to say. We could go small with Lebron at center. Lonzo/KCP/BI/Kuz/Lebron _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Our 5 best or most hot players. |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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My guess would be:
Zo guarding Curry
KCP guarding Klay
BI guarding Green
Koozy guarding Iggy
Lebron guarding KD _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma/Lebron/Wagner _________________ Lakers Offseason Goal:
- Draft Zach Edey (or Kel'el Ware)
- Sign Jonas Valanciunas or Nicolas Claxton
- sign and trade DLO to not lose value
- sign a coach that’s not an idiot
Call it an offseason |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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we probably lose that series in 5 or 6 tbh unless our young guns make insane jumps this year _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | we probably lose that series in 5 or 6 tbh unless our young guns make insane jumps this year |
Good thing they will make the jumps this year. _________________ Lakers Offseason Goal:
- Draft Zach Edey (or Kel'el Ware)
- Sign Jonas Valanciunas or Nicolas Claxton
- sign and trade DLO to not lose value
- sign a coach that’s not an idiot
Call it an offseason |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think we match up pretty well defensively but we just don't have the offense _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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JUST-MING Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Who are the best free throw shooters? |
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