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70sdude Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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If by "enough", the OP meant to ask "enough (3 pt accuracy) to reach the Finals", the answer is resoundingly a "Gawd No." That area of play appears to be brought forward from last season as a continuing weakness.
I doubt that the addition of shooting stats from Rondo, Lance, Beasley and LeBron make a season-to-season improvement for the team. Rondo and LeBron will put the ball into other guys' hands in their preferred spots, but the shots have to fall. Do we have those types of shooters. Not so much.
There's a lot of room for improvement from Lonzo and Caruso.
Few rookies find much success in carrying forth their college three point conversion rate in their pro year one. I take Svi and Bonga and Wagner right off the table in terms of expecting improvements in the team's three point make rate from their work.
I'm going to hope that Kooz judiciously shoots from downtown all year. Love to see him get his work into the .380 make rate or above. |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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70sdude wrote: | If by "enough", the OP meant to ask "enough (3 pt accuracy) to reach the Finals", the answer is resoundingly a "Gawd No." That area of play appears to be brought forward from last season as a continuing weakness.
I doubt that the addition of shooting stats from Rondo, Lance, Beasley and LeBron make a season-to-season improvement for the team. Rondo and LeBron will put the ball into other guys' hands in their preferred spots, but the shots have to fall. Do we have those types of shooters. Not so much.
There's a lot of room for improvement from Lonzo and Caruso.
Few rookies find much success in carrying forth their college three point conversion rate in their pro year one. I take Svi and Bonga and Wagner right off the table in terms of expecting improvements in the team's three point make rate from their work.
I'm going to hope that Kooz judiciously shoots from downtown all year. Love to see him get his work into the .380 make rate or above. |
3pt percentages from college/HS do not translate to the NBA, rarely ever has. First, the NBA 3 is a couple feet further (I think this is overlooked by those who think Lonzo will become as good as in college). Secondly, it's very common for a great college player to suck in the NBA, it happens all the time, we are all used to it!
THe Lonzo/Kidd comparison is the closest, even though i believe Kidd wasn't this bad. For me, there is ZERO hope that lonzo becomes an elite shooter or ft shooter in any sense. Not in less than 5 years, if that. We will be lucky if he gets to a Bruce Bowen level where he can be relied upon to shoot the shortest 3 if wide open. Even for LBJ, it took MANY years for him to go from "ah, we'll just let him shoot anything outside 15 feet", to needing to guard him at the arc. And LBJ didn't start off close to as bad as Lonzo.
Gawd no is right. We need at least ONE, just one, guy that can be feared at the 3pt line. The only ones proven currently are KCP and Beasly in my opinion. This is the proving year for Hart and Kuz, or Svi...the fanbase is hoping they become great. Well, just do it. Has anyone even hit 3 shots in a row yet? |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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i think svi is the first laker to make 3 shots in a row in preseason? |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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SuperboyReformed wrote: | i think svi is the first laker to make 3 shots in a row in preseason? |
Lebron? Ingram 2nd half against Sacto? _________________ Under New Management |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | SuperboyReformed wrote: | i think svi is the first laker to make 3 shots in a row in preseason? |
Lebron? Ingram 2nd half against Sacto? |
yea, not sure. anyone? |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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No _________________ |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely not. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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No great 3 point shooters but possibly best 3 point shooting overall?? |
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strong9 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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This game we don’t have any 3 point shooters. Hopefully that changes. |
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al242 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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This may be the worst shooting team ever asesmbeled |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Better 3rd quarter |
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CantStopJM Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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I look at tonight's game and I don't even think this is an anomaly. It might get worse than tonight. Jesus.... |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers where you trade 2s for 3s. _________________ |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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The year 1960 called, wants to know what exactly is a 3 pointer? |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | Lakers where you trade 2s for 3s. |
Story of many 4 quarters, I fear. |
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BynumForThree Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Magic and Rob's idea of grinding out games while simultaneously playing at a league-leading pace with no shooting in 2018 is a fireable offense. Luckily for them, Lebron signed. _________________ If Brandon Knight were to come out, I would take him number 1 in the draft. - Magic Johnson Mar 27, 2011
For all of you out there questioning Jimmer Fredette of BYU, he is the real deal. - Magic Johnson Mar 20, 2011 |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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At least Hart was consistent. |
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Laker_Town Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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They embarrassing themselves at the three |
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lakez34 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Was remembering this thread throughout the game as we built a brick house from outside. We really did a bad job assembling talent around Bron. |
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slavavov Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers were 7-17 from downtown in the 2nd half. I wonder how much of their 0-13 3 point shooting in the first half was nerves.
It also seems like they're decent at hitting 3s off ball movement/penetration as opposed to just jacking them up off the dribble. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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PRLakeShow Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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We're gonna be talking about this all season. We won't win a title without shooters. But maybe we don't care... |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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what really bothered me was how off we were on so many of those attempts _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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Staccatos Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think any of us are psychic but it's painfully obvious to everyone besides the Lakers what the team's shortcomings are:
1. Three point shooting
2. Closing out on shooters, especially at the 3pt line
3. Rebounding/boxing out
4. Luke's stunted rotations |
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RichD Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Staccatos wrote: | I don't think any of us are psychic but it's painfully obvious to everyone besides the Lakers what the team's shortcomings are:
1. Three point shooting
2. Closing out on shooters, especially at the 3pt line
3. Rebounding/boxing out
4. Luke's stunted rotations |
5.free throw shooting |
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