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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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What if it’s not for KCP? Is that possible? |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | What if it’s not for KCP? Is that possible? |
We would have to trade Beasley, Lance, Zu, and another player that makes at least 500k or more. _________________ Lakers Offseason Goal:
- Draft Zach Edey (or Kel'el Ware)
- Sign Jonas Valanciunas or Nicolas Claxton
- sign and trade DLO to not lose value
- sign a coach that’s not an idiot
Call it an offseason |
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Annihilator Star Player
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I would say that the fact that the Lakers are even considering trading KCP is a strong vote of confidence in Hart. After such a trade, Hart should be getting more playing time. _________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Megaton wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | What if it’s not for KCP? Is that possible? |
We would have to trade Beasley, Lance, Zu, and another player that makes at least 500k or more. |
We could just do Rondo + Lance or Beas |
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Do it. This means FO thinks we have a chance to go all the way, even this season. Ariza’s role is one thing, D up the best opponent wing, KD, Harden, PG13. It kinda makes BI a lil more expendable in a separate trade (I own his Jersey, hope not) |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | What if it’s not for KCP? Is that possible? |
We would have to trade Beasley, Lance, Zu, and another player that makes at least 500k or more. |
In theory, couldn’t it be a package involving a young core player? It’s doubtful, but trying to think of what a realistic non-KCP deal might look lke. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers won’t be done making moves once we get Ariza, My hunch is that the Lakers have another deal lined up for Dec 15 or perhaps the TD. |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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So 3 thoughts immediately come to mind:
1. They are trying to get Ariza before the Rockets.
2. You can never have enough good defensive wings. Changes the game.
3. Whenever something like this gets leaked, I’m skeptical of it actually going through. Someone just wanted this leaked... |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Lakers won’t be done making moves once we get Ariza, My hunch is that the Lakers have another deal lined up for Dec 15 or perhaps the TD. |
But you get that hunch even when the wind changes |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | would much rather just get him on the buyout market |
If Phoenix can find a trade for Ariza with expiring and some asset coming back, then they will take that instead of waiting past the trade deadline to do a buyout and not getting any asset at all. |
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LakerSD wrote: | So 3 thoughts immediately come to mind:
1. They are trying to get Ariza before the Rockets.
2. You can never have enough good defensive wings. Changes the game.
3. Whenever something like this gets leaked, I’m skeptical of it actually going through. Someone just wanted this leaked... |
I would agree with 3 but the fact that woj says it can’t be done by Dec 15 makes me think that it’s already agreed upon in principle. |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Luke went to Phil and told him Trevor should keep his starter job back in the day.
Fultz is a ball handling guard in need of a change of scenery. Philly would like to clear their books of his salary next year. Simmons is a Klutch client. |
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Do it. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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chantruong Star Player
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LakerSD wrote: | So 3 thoughts immediately come to mind:
1. They are trying to get Ariza before the Rockets.
2. You can never have enough good defensive wings. Changes the game.
3. Whenever something like this gets leaked, I’m skeptical of it actually going through. Someone just wanted this leaked... |
Feel like 1 is the most likely from that list. i feel like they don't want him to enter the buyout market. Too many teams have the room exception to offer him. The difference in salary might not matter too much mid way through the season tho. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Lol dumbass suns fans on realgm want lonzo for ariza.
Talk about being delusional |
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anth2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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My thoughts, Ariza brings more than KCP. KCP is spotty and not a good defender in fact, he's a lazy lazy defender.
I like the idea of Ariza. Another vet with the young guys. I am ok with that. |
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eureca Franchise Player
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ringfinger wrote: | Megaton wrote: | ringfinger wrote: | What if it’s not for KCP? Is that possible? |
We would have to trade Beasley, Lance, Zu, and another player that makes at least 500k or more. |
In theory, couldn’t it be a package involving a young core player? It’s doubtful, but trying to think of what a realistic non-KCP deal might look lke. |
In theory yes the salaries would work if you include Ingram or Ball. Obviously that is never happening. If it isn't KCP then I am guessing the only other realistic trade is involving Rondo. I would not do that. I want Rondo on this team in the playoffs.
Yes you can try adding a bunch of players together to make it work, but then you are sending 4 or 5 players for 1 and it gets unrealistic. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | Lol dumbass suns fans on realgm want lonzo for ariza.
Talk about being delusional |
What if we got ayton back? Woah. Haha |
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Bard207 wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | would much rather just get him on the buyout market |
If Phoenix can find a trade for Ariza with expiring and some asset coming back, then they will take that instead of waiting past the trade deadline to do a buyout and not getting any asset at all. | Suns also save 3 million dollars with an Ariza for KCP swap. |
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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anth2000 wrote: | My thoughts, Ariza brings more than KCP. KCP is spotty and not a good defender in fact, he's a lazy lazy defender.
I like the idea of Ariza. Another vet with the young guys. I am ok with that. |
I think Ariza would bring versatility and consistency where KCP has more potential to go off and make a big impact on a given night but disappear on others. I think this team needs a bit more of the former.
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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BI and KCP for Ariza and Ayton
sounds good to me _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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ringfinger wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Lol dumbass suns fans on realgm want lonzo for ariza.
Talk about being delusional |
What if we got ayton back? Woah. Haha |
No thank you _________________ Austin Reaves
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Mini Mamba Star Player
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PHILosophize wrote: | BI and KCP for Ariza and Ayton
sounds good to me |
I’d rather have Booker than Ayton. He would give LeBron more help to win now. |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Now IDEALLY, I would love it if a deal was sending just Lance, Beasley, Zu and a filler like Caruso to acquire Ariza. We would get rid of a lot of fat for a big impactful player while also leaving us room to bring up other more useful players like Travis Wear again, etc. _________________ Lakers Offseason Goal:
- Draft Zach Edey (or Kel'el Ware)
- Sign Jonas Valanciunas or Nicolas Claxton
- sign and trade DLO to not lose value
- sign a coach that’s not an idiot
Call it an offseason |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | BI and KCP for Ariza and Ayton
sounds good to me |
That would actually be pretty amazing.
But then one of either McGee or Chandler has to go to make playing time room for Ayton. _________________ Lakers Offseason Goal:
- Draft Zach Edey (or Kel'el Ware)
- Sign Jonas Valanciunas or Nicolas Claxton
- sign and trade DLO to not lose value
- sign a coach that’s not an idiot
Call it an offseason |
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