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If you could keep only one of these players who would it be? |
BI |
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16% |
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Lonzo |
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42% |
[ 48 ] |
Kuz |
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41% |
[ 47 ] |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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ShowtimeDynasty_24/7 wrote: | LOL at those saying they wouldn't trade more than one of those guys for AD. NO will demand three of our four young guys (Josh Hart). If it came down to trading two, nobody in the Lakers front office would hesitate to agree to that. Don't get too attached. |
Kawhi is better than AD, though. Why not just trade them for Kawhi last summer if the outlines of the rumored deal were legit? _________________ Under New Management |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | I demand Bonga be added to this poll! |
And Svi! _________________ Under New Management |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | Kjj10697X wrote: | I just don’t agree with the age argument. BI has 1 more year NBA experience so he really should be more efficient. At 21 years old you should already have most of you man muscles. I was skinny like BI but I really didn’t fill out til I was in my 30s. We have to accept the fact the BI might be skinny his whole NBA career like Tayshawn.
But to answer the poll, it’s Kuz. He is the only one that wants to be great. I’ll take my chances with that. The other 2 guys have potential but just doesn’t seem to want it. See Booker, Embid, Mitchell, Simmons. You can see and feel that they all want it. The drive is always better than potential. |
Booker hasn’t shown he wants to be great. He’s shown he wants to score and do little else. |
Reminds me of someone else living off of hype. That marketability is huge though. |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Lmao no one likes Ingram I’m dead |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:13 am Post subject: |
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I voted Lonzo fwiw .. Even tho his poor shooting pisses me off he still shows some promise to grow into an elite playmaker/defender
And because in 2K MyCareer they have him as an allstar 2 seasons from now |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Not too long ago it would have been Ingram for me, but today I’d have to go with Zo. His BBIQ, his defense, his speed, his passing, he rarely shoots 2’s, doesn’t pound the rock, consistent from 3, unlimited potential.
Kuz is a star, Ingram will flourish somewhere else, but if Zo can figure things out he has all-time great potential. |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:16 am Post subject: |
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AFireInside619 wrote: | Not too long ago it would have been Ingram for me, but today I’d have to go with Zo. His BBIQ, his defense, his speed, his passing, he rarely shoots 2’s, doesn’t pound the rock, consistent from 3, unlimited potential.
Kuz is a star, Ingram will flourish somewhere else, but if Zo can figure things out he has all-time great potential. |
The question is will Lonzo figure it out? If you look a little deeper into his performance from college he was historically great as a freshman .. that makes me want to believe that he will pan out in the NBA one day. Then I see the shots he misses in games and it leaves me with a face palm. |
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Yellow Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Zo without hesitation. He's the only one with remarkable talent.
That said, the team would be fantastic with a star in place of Ingram. The other guys fit well around star players.
Zo
George
Bron
Kuz
McGee
Zo
Hart
Bron
Kuz
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:16 am Post subject: |
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If Lonzo changes his form and that goes well, he has a top 15 player ceiling. By far the highest on the team. Hope this happens. Current form is limiting all shots but C&S
Still holding out hope for BI, but the important aspects of his game are a mess
Kuz also needs a big tweak in his jumper... and defense
Voted Zo |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | ShowtimeDynasty_24/7 wrote: | LOL at those saying they wouldn't trade more than one of those guys for AD. NO will demand three of our four young guys (Josh Hart). If it came down to trading two, nobody in the Lakers front office would hesitate to agree to that. Don't get too attached. |
Kawhi is better than AD, though. Why not just trade them for Kawhi last summer if the outlines of the rumored deal were legit? |
For me it would have been because Leonard was injured. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Startrout Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:45 am Post subject: |
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It was a tough call between Kuzma and Lonzo.
- Kuzma is keeping us in games with his play, putting up near all star numbers with improved defense. He’s a very talented player already and he’s still improving. His shooting seems to have declined a little, but I believe that is because he’s working so hard at other aspects of his game. His 3-point shooting will be better in time. He’s also the best fit with LeBron.
- Lonzo is a very smart player that can be elite on defense at times. However, his inconsistency on offense with poor shooting, terrible free throws, and inability to finish at the rim really hurts the team. He may develop a floater, more consistant shooting, and finishing, but he really should be much better than he is currently so I wouldn’t count on those things improving enough. I’m still hoping he can turn into what we all see in him and I’d hate to loose him.
- Ingram has all the tools to be great and should be great. But, he’s not great, something just hasn’t clicked and it’s really hard for me to put my finger on why. Maybe he’s just not being used right. ISO is not way to go with him. I still have my hopes for him. I wish I was as confident he will figure it out as I used to be. I’d trade him at this point if a player that is a better fit became available. He’s gone from the least tradeable to the most tradeable over the last year or so in my mind.
I chose to keep Kuz, which surprises me. Lonzo would of been my pick previously. |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:59 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | This will go well. |
Really, now people get there chance to pit one young player against the others. |
this poll has been put up several times....and the Lonzo Illuminati will keep putting it up until he wins one |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | This will go well. |
Really, now people get there chance to pit one young player against the others. |
this poll has been put up several times....and the Lonzo Illuminati will keep putting it up until he wins one |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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BI is 'untouchable'. That's why no one wants to vote for him. Where's the none of the above option? _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024 |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | If Lonzo changes his form and that goes well, he has a top 15 player ceiling. By far the highest on the team. Hope this happens. Current form is limiting all shots but C&S
Still holding out hope for BI, but the important aspects of his game are a mess
Kuz also needs a big tweak in his jumper... and defense
Voted Zo |
I think the crazy part is, even if it's just C&S, if he starts showing any real consistency, he's easily Top 40. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Fortysixn2 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Not BI for sure, guy really can’t do much more than he’s doing now IMO...he has no elite qualities.
I like Kuzma, could potentially be a top 10 scorer in the league year in and out and his defense is improving. His 3 pt shooting is not though and at best he can be a slightly above average NBA defender. He’s also older than Ball.
Ball what we all wanted offensively and although he has improved slightly, it’s highly likely his offensive ceiling is just being a league average shooter. His defense has been a revelation though and him still being so young I think he could potentially be an MVP type guy in the Kidd, Payton, Rondo mold. None of those guys are good enough to be the #1 guy on a championship team, but #2 or #3 in their prime? For sure.
I’d keep ball if I had to choose. |
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RichD Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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chrisca91 wrote: | Kuz is the only proven consistent player. BI is trash, and so is Lonzo. |
X100 |
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | If Lonzo changes his form and that goes well, he has a top 15 player ceiling. By far the highest on the team. Hope this happens. Current form is limiting all shots but C&S
Still holding out hope for BI, but the important aspects of his game are a mess
Kuz also needs a big tweak in his jumper... and defense
Voted Zo |
I think the crazy part is, even if it's just C&S, if he starts showing any real consistency, he's easily Top 40. |
true, a lot of value there |
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818fan Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | If Lonzo changes his form and that goes well, he has a top 15 player ceiling. By far the highest on the team. Hope this happens. Current form is limiting all shots but C&S
Still holding out hope for BI, but the important aspects of his game are a mess
Kuz also needs a big tweak in his jumper... and defense
Voted Zo |
What needs to be changed? |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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1. Lonzo
2. Kuz
3. BI
That's who I would keep in that order. Sadly I've lowered the bar on BI and I don't expect much from him. Lonzo has the highest ceiling and Kuz provides the best immediate production. Haven't given up on BI but I no longer dream about his "potential". He is not good. |
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818fan Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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If we redo this poll after tonight, BI would be taking some votes away from Kuz and Zo. |
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SocalDevin Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't fault anyone for the poll results..
It's not easy to assess our talent when they're playing in roles they aren't suited for.
If Kuz was still playing center I doubt he'd get a single vote. |
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Startrout Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I just think Kuz is our most consistant player. The others show flashes of what they could be. Kuz just brings it every night. |
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YSong Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Hart! |
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tkLAKERS Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:29 am Post subject: |
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As long as They don’t trade Fox, it’s all good. |
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