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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:57 am    Post subject:

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No bro. You ain't right. The trade will only be finalized after the FA period. That means, we can first sign a star free agent with the max slot, then proceed to execute the trade provided that we can match the salary.. That's all that is required. And cause we got the 4th pick, we can match 80% of AD's salary (80% of his salary is 17.7 FYI). Lonzo Ball is 7.46. I believe I read that 4th pick this year is about 6+ too. Essentially, we only need to throw in Kuz + Wagner to make the salary. If we get creative, and acquire 8th + 10th for 4th, then wala, the salary matching becomes even easier.



80% of the 2019-20 salary of Davis?

$27,093,019 * 80% = $21,674,416


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(80% of his salary is 17.7 FYI).



Explain your calculations because I don't understand them.


Right, I should be looking at 2019-2020. My bad. Although if I remember correctly, a cap expert did espouse that Ball + 4th + Hart/Kuz would comply with the salary requirements.




$27,093,019 (Davis) - $100,000 = $26,993,019
$26,993,019 / 1.25 = $21,594,415.20


Outgoing Salary

$8,719,320.......Lonzo Ball
$7,100,000.......2019 First #4
$1,974,600........Kyle Kuzma
$1,934,160........Josh Hart

$0......................Brandon Ingram
$0......................Moritz Wagner
$0......................Isaac Bonga
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Even with rounding up the salary on the #4 pick to $7.1 million, there is a shortage on the outgoing salary by about $1.9 million.


$7,265,485.......Brandon Ingram
$2,063,520.......Moritz Wagner
$1,663,861.......Isaac Bonga


If Ingram is staying in LA, then Wagner needs to be included in the trade.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

Damn, that dude was right.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

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Adrian Wojnarowski
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Celtics and Lakers are engaged in trade talks with New Orleans on All-NBA star Anthony Davis, league sources tell me,
@ZachLowe_NBA, @ramonashelburne and @WindhorstESPN
. Lakers No. 4 pick has been discussed as trade chip to help Pels acquire high-level player in multi-team deals.


Objective. Vague.


The ONLY reason the Celtics are involved--if they really are--is to drive the price up for Davis as much as possible. They do not really want to trade for him ... they shouldn't, anyway, as he has made it clear that he will not sign with them ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

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Celtics? Why?


To try and get Kyrie to stay probably.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

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Speaking of “insider” you know who the biggest fraud has been?

CyberX from that Houston Rockets board.

All he does is throw as many scenarios he can on the wall and then sees what sticks. Once something sticks he just keeps re-posting it over and over to show that he was right. And the members in that Rockets forum eat it up


Not gonna lie I actually follow cyberx: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?members/cyberx.17959/

So far he’s reporting a lot of speculation of trades to Houston right now.

- Pat Beverly
- Gordon Hayward
- Jimmy Butler

So we’ll see if he ends up being right with those 3 latest scoops.


Does Boston trade for CP3 in that Gordon Howard deal?


I follow CyberX a lot as well. Looks like he is credible and he has broken a few stories.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/source-chance-dwight-comes-to-houston-growing.238488/

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/sources-mutual-interest-between-joe-johnson-and-houston.288096/

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/sources-moreys-summer-goal-bring-cp3-hayward.283366/
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

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Celtics? Why?


Woj runs all his tweets by Ainge's office for approval.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

KD officially has a ruptured Achilles. Yikes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:59 am    Post subject:

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KD officially has a ruptured Achilles. Yikes.


Complete or partial, if they said?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:59 am    Post subject:

Damn celtics lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:59 am    Post subject:

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If LA gives up the farm i’ll be pissed.


Who cares lol be pissed while we celebrate winning again. Myopic fans don’t know what it takes to win just want to have fun watching draft picks lose 😂😂😂😂


There shouldn’t be a need to give up the farm. It’s a one year deal without many suitors for a player with injury history. One hard fall and LA just dumped the whole young core for another lottery team.

LA should be able to walk out of this with Ingram or Zo. If they MUST perhaps Kuzma but something else should be coming back to LA then
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:59 am    Post subject:

Nash Vegas was first
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:00 pm    Post subject:

levon wrote:
Damn, that dude was right.


But the Celtics aren’t the 3rd team, there trying to get AD for themselves.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:00 pm    Post subject:

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According to @WindhorstESPN Anthony Davis has instructed his agent Rich Paul to get him to the Lakers.


Dude is regurgitating What someone said this morning. He has no sources lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:01 pm    Post subject:

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Damn, that dude was right.


But the Celtics aren’t the 3rd team, there trying to get AD for themselves.

I meant he was right about using the 4th pick to acquire another piece.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:01 pm    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
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If LA gives up the farm i’ll be pissed.


Who cares lol be pissed while we celebrate winning again. Myopic fans don’t know what it takes to win just want to have fun watching draft picks lose 😂😂😂😂


There shouldn’t be a need to give up the farm. It’s a one year deal without many suitors for a player with injury history. One hard fall and LA just dumped the whole young core for another lottery team.

LA should be able to walk out of this with Ingram or Zo. If they MUST perhaps Kuzma but something else should be coming back to LA then


I think that's too optimistic. If we keep, Zo, BI or Kuz....it's a good deal.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:02 pm    Post subject:

Is everyone else reading that as THIRD TEAM is the Celtics?

Edit: vague tweet by woj. I just can’t see that happening.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:02 pm    Post subject:

justsomelakerfan wrote:
Return2greatness wrote:
justsomelakerfan wrote:
If LA gives up the farm i’ll be pissed.


Who cares lol be pissed while we celebrate winning again. Myopic fans don’t know what it takes to win just want to have fun watching draft picks lose 😂😂😂😂


There shouldn’t be a need to give up the farm. It’s a one year deal without many suitors for a player with injury history. One hard fall and LA just dumped the whole young core for another lottery team.

LA should be able to walk out of this with Ingram or Zo. If they MUST perhaps Kuzma but something else should be coming back to LA then


Keep dreaming
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:02 pm    Post subject:

If Rich Paul was actually good at his job, he'd get AD here for minimal assets going back. Dude is a terrible negotiator. All he does is piss off the Pelicans.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:02 pm    Post subject:

This is exciting...but a part of me just wants this to be over soon too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

Mo,BI and The 4th pick
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

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Is everyone else reading that as THIRD TEAM is the Celtics?

Thor and Loki teaming up?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

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Is everyone else reading that as THIRD TEAM is the Celtics?


Yeah that’s what I gathered at first but why would the Celtics help the Lakers become a WC powerhouse?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

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Is everyone else reading that as THIRD TEAM is the Celtics?


I'm reading them as the 3rd team...could be wrong
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
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The Hawks are interesting because we could trade the 4 for 8 and 10. Then pelicans get BI, lonzo, 8 and 10. That's a nice package. We keep Kuz.


That's giving up too much. Give them Kuz and keep BI or Zo


Look. If we trade Zo/Kuz/4th for AD. I will cream myself so hard. So hard.


I prefer to keep Zo over BI but if they want Zo this is the most I'd offer:

Zo-Kuz-4th pick-Wagner-Bonga-Future 2nd


I'm okay with this too. If we end up giving all three of Ingram/Lonzo/4, Pelinka boned it big time and we might as well have Bozo the Clown doing our trade negotiations.

While BI + Lonzo + 4th is not a bargain deal for AD its also not a bad one either. AD is easily a top 10 player in the NBA... Ball BI #4 is fair market value in my book.


This is the only way it makes sense. If we include Kuz, we are over paying. BI and Zo has to be included and the Lakers need to do this to have space for max salary. I think the third team is to swap BI or Zo for draft picks to send to NO.


No bro. You ain't right. The trade will only be finalized after the FA period. That means, we can first sign a star free agent with the max slot, then proceed to execute the trade provided that we can match the salary.. That's all that is required. And cause we got the 4th pick, we can match 80% of AD's salary (80% of his salary is 17.7 FYI). Lonzo Ball is 7.46. I believe I read that 4th pick this year is about 6+ too. Essentially, we only need to throw in Kuz + Wagner to make the salary. If we get creative, and acquire 8th + 10th for 4th, then wala, the salary matching becomes even easier.



actually the Lakers can also trade for AD and then eject the salary of all stragglers except Kuzma by trading them for picks and no salary in return to open up enough space that would be very close to a max slot
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

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Is everyone else reading that as THIRD TEAM is the Celtics?


No. Why would they help us? They want AD for themselves.
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