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 Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:13 pm Post subject: Daryl Hall gets restraining order against John Oates in Hall & Oates legal battle |
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https://variety.com/2023/music/news/hall-and-oates-lawsuit-restraining-order-1235805425/
| Quote: | Daryl Hall Gets Restraining Order Against John Oates in Hall & Oates Legal Battle
Hall & Oates are embroiled in a confidential legal battle that has led to Daryl Hall getting a restraining order against his former music partner John Oates.
Little information about the lawsuit is publicly available, as the court documents are sealed, but based on court records, Hall filed an undisclosed complaint against Oates on Nov. 16, as well as a motion for a temporary restraining order, as reported by Philadelphia magazine. The following day, the court officially issued a temporary restraining order to begin Nov. 30.
The Nashville Chancery Court confirmed the existence of the lawsuit to Variety, but declined further comment because the lawsuit is sealed.
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As TMZ points out, Hall disparaged Oates on Bill Maher’s “Club Random” podcast last year, saying, “You think John Oates is my partner? … He’s my business partner. He’s not my creative partner.”
He went on, “John and I are brothers, but we are not creative brothers. We are business partners. We made records called Hall & Oates together, but we’ve always been very separate, and that’s a really important thing for me.”
Hall then went on to diminish the collaborative aspect of Hall & Oates, using the duo’s 1980 No. 1 hit “Kiss on My List” as an example of their apparent creative separation. “I did all those [harmonies],” Hall said. “That’s all me.” Oates is not credited as a songwriter on “Kiss on My List,” but is listed as a co-produced with Hall.
Hall & Oates met in 1967, formed their duo three years later and have released 18 studio albums since their 1972 debut, “Whole Oats.” The pop-R&B duo boasts six No. 1 singles, including “Maneater,” “Rich Girl” and “Out of Touch.” Hall & Oates toured together as recently as October 2022, and they released their latest studio album, “Home for Christmas,” in 2006. Both Hall and Oates have solo recording careers and have toured separately over the years, but the duo has never officially split up. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Such a shame. The beauty is there, but the beast is in the heart.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I guess he can’t for that that, so it’s one on one.
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| C M B wrote: | | Such a shame. The beauty is there, but the beast is in the heart. |
Such a shame bickering over who's more creative -- the judge should force both into court & tell them they've been together for about half their lives & stop this pissing contest. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| Say it isn’t so, no wonder they’ve been touring separately for a while. Not sure what happened, but some things are better left unsaid. |
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| I saw them at the Hollywood Bowl in 2011, I believe, when Hall was 65. He still had a pretty strong voice at that time, much better than what it is now that he's 77. I specifically remember Hall lauding Oates on the mic for his contributions to the duo over time, basically saying that it was easy for people to not give him enough credit because Hall is obviously the lead vocalist. How times have changed! |
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| XTC wrote: | | Say it isn’t so, no wonder they’ve been touring separately for a while. Not sure what happened, but some things are better left unsaid. |
I thought I read somewhere that the disagreement started when Oates was planning to sell his half of their music to an investment firm.
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| Buck32 wrote: | | XTC wrote: | | Say it isn’t so, no wonder they’ve been touring separately for a while. Not sure what happened, but some things are better left unsaid. |
I thought I read somewhere that the disagreement started when Oates was planning to sell his half of their music to an investment firm. |
I saw a blurb on TMZ where they claim that a source says that the dispute has to do with whether or not Oates has the right to sing one of their songs (one song specifically) on his own, presumably when he's touring and performing solo. |
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Saw him in concert last month in our area, it wasn’t as good as I expected.
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This is sounds like the same kind of nonsense that goes on between Peter Cetera and the other band members of Chicago. Everyone believes they're bigger than the team. Egos run amok.
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| ^Then there’s Journey’s Neal Schon v. Jonathon Cain. They’re still touring these days to keep the dollars rolling in, but they’ve basically gone their separate ways outside of the band as they’re battling it out in court as well. |
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| XTC wrote: | | ^Then there’s Journey...separate ways |
nice. their best song imo
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