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 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:20 pm Post subject: Missed calls vs The Warriors |
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Some of these are agregious and these aren't 'could go any way just sour grapes' calls. These are blatant missed calls, none worse than the shotclock reset the refs 'missed'. (videos in the links)
AD gets hit in the face in the first quarter and can’t play the rest of the game, oh and no foul was called on this play.
https://twitter.com/LakerFan1234000/status/1769207888822608208
Shot clock completely reset mid possession for no-reason. (It goes from 9 to the full 24 and the refs do nothing, the Warriors get a 39 second shot clock)
https://twitter.com/LakerFan1234000/status/1769207890403803142
LeBron’s backfoot is clearly above the line (you can see his shadow) but the refs decide to take away the three.
https://twitter.com/LakerFan1234000/status/1769207896183619926
Obvious illegal screen RIGHT IN FRONT of the refs, but of-course Warriors are allowed to do whatever they want on offense.
https://twitter.com/LakerFan1234000/status/1769207898800800083
The shot-clock situation…. 20 minutes to fix the shot-clock and the Lakers LOST 12 seconds of a crucial possession because of it.
https://twitter.com/LakerFan1234000/status/1769207900709306575
These aren't just "the refs are human.. they make mistakes.." missed calls. These are crucial.. Some under review with the evidence RIGHT in front of them, some going back after plays have been ran to take away points even though it shows a foot clearly above the line and not out of bounds. They could go back to take away a three where LeBron's foot wasn't out of bounds, but they can't go and change the possession that gave the Warriors a 39 second shot clock?
These are not "oops our bad" mistakes, they are far worse than that, but nothing can be done and the refs will never be punished as the most the Lakers would get is a 'The refs missed these calls' in a report, that does nothing to change the outcome of the game.
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That said I'm sure there's some Warriors fan who could say the same. The whole problem on this is that there are missed calls for both teams in every game. And - I agree with Kerr - if you're wasting a bunch of trying trying to get every single call right then it really just messes up the flow and the offense of the game.
It's my opinion that it should be saved for more critical moments not every little like ticky-tack it could have been this or that or you know all this bang bang it to go either way type of thing that now you're spending 15 minutes trying to sort out this bang bang call.
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Basically they said "If the refs on the floor don't call it... we can't change it."
But they can go back after a play and change a three point shot, even if the evidence proves LeBron's foot wasn't out of bounds...
Didn't the on court refs say it was 'out of their hands' when these same people changed LeBron's 3 to a 2 vs the Timberwolves despite his foot being behind the line? Seems like their story changes due to convenience.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: |
Basically they said "If the refs on the floor don't call it... we can't change it."
But they can go back after a play and change a three point shot, even if the evidence proves LeBron's foot wasn't out of bounds...
Didn't the on court refs say it was 'out of their hands' when these same people changed LeBron's 3 to a 2 vs the Timberwolves despite his foot being behind the line? Seems like their story changes due to convenience. |
They can’t review a call that was never made. The refs calling a two or three point shot is a call and can be reviewed. Don’t criticize the refs because you don’t understand the rules.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: |
Basically they said "If the refs on the floor don't call it... we can't change it."
But they can go back after a play and change a three point shot, even if the evidence proves LeBron's foot wasn't out of bounds...
Didn't the on court refs say it was 'out of their hands' when these same people changed LeBron's 3 to a 2 vs the Timberwolves despite his foot being behind the line? Seems like their story changes due to convenience. |
They can’t review a call that was never made. The refs calling a two or three point shot is a call and can be reviewed. Don’t criticize the refs because you don’t understand the rules. |
The issue then becomes, how did the refs not notice the Warriors had a 40 second possession lol. Our players immediately knew it |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: |
Basically they said "If the refs on the floor don't call it... we can't change it."
But they can go back after a play and change a three point shot, even if the evidence proves LeBron's foot wasn't out of bounds...
Didn't the on court refs say it was 'out of their hands' when these same people changed LeBron's 3 to a 2 vs the Timberwolves despite his foot being behind the line? Seems like their story changes due to convenience. |
They can’t review a call that was never made. The refs calling a two or three point shot is a call and can be reviewed. Don’t criticize the refs because you don’t understand the rules. |
Something is wrong with you man...I've noticed it for a while...Either you are intellectually dishonest, or you're a complete tool...I still can't figure out which one it is.
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| eddiejonze wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | MJST wrote: |
Basically they said "If the refs on the floor don't call it... we can't change it."
But they can go back after a play and change a three point shot, even if the evidence proves LeBron's foot wasn't out of bounds...
Didn't the on court refs say it was 'out of their hands' when these same people changed LeBron's 3 to a 2 vs the Timberwolves despite his foot being behind the line? Seems like their story changes due to convenience. |
They can’t review a call that was never made. The refs calling a two or three point shot is a call and can be reviewed. Don’t criticize the refs because you don’t understand the rules. |
Something is wrong with you man...I've noticed it for a while...Either you are intellectually dishonest, or you're a complete tool...I still can't figure out which one it is. |
Probably both, given the time he/she/whatever spends here on LG talking ish |
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| Lakers win easily if Davis doesn’t leave the game with the eye injury. With Davis out, the Warriors owned the paint and the Lakers only shot around 20% from 3 in the 2nd half and the game was still close. |
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| Treble Clef wrote: | | Lakers win easily if Davis doesn’t leave the game with the eye injury. With Davis out, the Warriors owned the paint and the Lakers only shot around 20% from 3 in the 2nd half and the game was still close. |
Yeah it's scary how much he carries the defense. They have zero chance at doing anything without him.
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| Those calls are crazy but the reset of the 24 second clock is jaw dropping I don’t know if that has ever happened without the refs noticing |
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| lar9149 wrote: | | Those calls are crazy but the reset of the 24 second clock is jaw dropping I don’t know if that has ever happened without the refs noticing |
I don't think referee's do the counting they're supposed to do, the amount of 3 second calls that go missed. Seems more like it is arbitrarily called rather than consistently. It is hard to count such things while watching everything else they're supposed to, so I can sympathize with that. 40 seconds is pretty egregious though lol |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| lar9149 wrote: | | Those calls are crazy but the reset of the 24 second clock is jaw dropping I don’t know if that has ever happened without the refs noticing |
It shows the level of quality of modern NBA refs. They can't count to 24 or notice that a shot didn't hit the rim. But we expect them to get calls right...
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Kyrie had a similar situation on his game winner last night. Look like he stepped out of bounds before the shot.
Did they even review it? |
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| miggz23 wrote: | Kyrie had a similar situation on his game winner last night. Look like he stepped out of bounds before the shot.
Did they even review it? |
Of course they didn't. I am sure they felt it was 'out of their hands' then too...
If they can't call it consistently, don't call it. Here's the image of Kyrie's foot.
https://twitter.com/BronGotGame/status/1769518536953614743
And what's funny is all the defenders are going "Who cares.. can't we just enjoy that he hit a crazy shot?"
That way of thinking didn't seem to factor in LeBron's crazy shot getting taken from him, despite another play being run by the other team.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | Kyrie had a similar situation on his game winner last night. Look like he stepped out of bounds before the shot.
Did they even review it? |
I don’t think that’s reviewable unless he took the shot from there. |
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