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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 1:31 am    Post subject:

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Donovan Clingan’s NBA Draft Combine measurements

πŸ€ 7’1.75” without shoes
πŸ€ 7’6.75” wingspan
πŸ€ 9’7” standing reach
πŸ€ 282 lbs

Zach Edey’s combine measurements

7’3.75” without shoes
7’10.75” wingspan
9’7” standing reach
299 lbs

Alexandre Sarr’s NBA Draft Combine Measurements:

πŸ€ 6’11.75” without shoes
πŸ€ 7’4.25” wingspan
πŸ€ 9’2” standing reach
πŸ€ 224.2 lbs

All Combine Measurements here: https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1790015441496125829

No Ceilings
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USC guard Bronny James #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'1.5" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 210.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'7.25" wingspan

Tennessee wing Dalton Knecht #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'5.25" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 212.2 lbs
πŸ€ 6'9" wingspan

Dayton big man DaRon Holmes II #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'8.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 236.2 lbs
πŸ€ 7'1" wingspan

Duke Blue Devil big man Kyle Filipowski #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'10.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 229.8 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10.5" wingspan

Baylor Bear wing Ja'Kobe Walter #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'4.25 (without shoes)
πŸ€ 197.6 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

Baylor Bear forward Jalen Bridges #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'6.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 213.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

Kel'el Ware
πŸ€ 6'11.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 230 lbs
πŸ€ 7'4.5" wingspan
πŸ€ 9'4.5" standing reach


Sarr vs Kel'el Ware Comparison Measurements and Times

Alexandre Sarr’s Measurements:

πŸ€ 6’11.75” without shoes
πŸ€ 224.2 lbs
πŸ€ 7’4.25” wingspan
πŸ€ 9’2” standing reach

Kel'el Ware's Measurements:

πŸ€ 6'11.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 230 lbs
πŸ€ 7'4.5" wingspan
πŸ€ 9'4.5" standing reach

Drill times Comparison:
Alexandre Sarr C | Lane Agility: 11.43 | Shuttle Run: 3.23 | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.44 | Standing Vert: 30.5 | Max Vert: 37.0
Kel'el Ware C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.23 | Standing Vert: 32.5 | Max Vert: 36.0

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Donovan Clingan at the NBA Combine

Not bad for 7'2 (video in link)

https://twitter.com/ryancassidycbb/status/1790057205825171608


@NBADraftWass

The race we’ve all been waiting for. Zach Edey edges Donovan Clingan in 3/4 sprint by .03 of a second.

Ryan Dunn 3.12 sec
Kel'el Ware 3.23 sec
Tyler Smith 3.42 sec
Alexandre Sarr 3.44 sec
Zach Edey 3.51 sec
Donovan Clingan 3.54 sec

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1790059470988382211


Something else to marinate on

Quote:

Chris Keesee (NBA Scouting)
@HoopKeesee

DUDE. Unofficial times, but Edey just beat Sarr in the lane agility testing by a comfortable amount

Ryan Dunn PF | Lane Agility: 10.99 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.12 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.5
Tyler Smith PF | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.42 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.0
Alexandre Sarr C | Lane Agility: 11.43 | Shuttle Run: 3.23 | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.44 | Standing Vert: 30.5 | Max Vert: 37.0
Kel'el Ware C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.23 | Standing Vert: 32.5 | Max Vert: 36.0
Zach Edey C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.51 | Standing Vert: 26.0 | Max Vert: 31.5
Donovan Clingan C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.54 | Standing Vert: 25.5 | Max Vert: 29.0

https://twitter.com/HoopKeesee/status/1790062786896076808


@parkervb901
So… Edey is bigger, possibly faster, way more offensively skilled than Clingan but they’re supposed to be miles apart in their NBA potential? πŸ€”

@FearTheBrown
Edey has a faster lane agility time than Sarr, Missi, and of course Clingan. Clingan was downright slow.

It's not a fluke either - Edey's time last year would be faster than those three as well.



But ya'll were worried....

Draft Edey at 17 and hope that he doesn't up his stock into the top 10 prior to that point so that we still have a chance.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:01 am    Post subject:

Ryan Dunn has Robert Covington potential. I think he might go first round tho since this is such a weak draft class.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:19 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
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@_utilitysports
Donovan Clingan’s NBA Draft Combine measurements

πŸ€ 7’1.75” without shoes
πŸ€ 7’6.75” wingspan
πŸ€ 9’7” standing reach
πŸ€ 282 lbs

Zach Edey’s combine measurements

7’3.75” without shoes
7’10.75” wingspan
9’7” standing reach
299 lbs

Alexandre Sarr’s NBA Draft Combine Measurements:

6’11.75” without shoes
7’4.25” wingspan
9’2” standing reach
πŸ€ 224.2 lbs

All Combine Measurements here: https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1790015441496125829

No Ceilings
@NoCeilingsNBA
USC guard Bronny James #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'1.5" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 210.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'7.25" wingspan

Tennessee wing Dalton Knecht #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'5.25" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 212.2 lbs
πŸ€ 6'9" wingspan

Dayton big man DaRon Holmes II #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'8.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 236.2 lbs
πŸ€ 7'1" wingspan

Duke Blue Devil big man Kyle Filipowski #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'10.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 229.8 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10.5" wingspan

Baylor Bear wing Ja'Kobe Walter #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'4.25 (without shoes)
πŸ€ 197.6 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

Baylor Bear forward Jalen Bridges #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'6.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 213.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

@ryancassidycbb
Donovan Clingan at the NBA Combine

Not bad for 7'2 (video in link)

https://twitter.com/ryancassidycbb/status/1790057205825171608


@NBADraftWass

The race we’ve all been waiting for. Zach Edey edges Donovan Clingan in 3/4 sprint by .03 of a second.

Ryan Dunn 3.12 sec
Kel'el Ware 3.23 sec
Tyler Smith 3.42 sec
Alexandre Sarr 3.44 sec
Zach Edey 3.51 sec
Donovan Clingan 3.54 sec

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1790059470988382211


Something else to marinate on

Quote:

Chris Keesee (NBA Scouting)
@HoopKeesee

DUDE. Unofficial times, but Edey just beat Sarr in the lane agility testing by a comfortable amount

Ryan Dunn PF | Lane Agility: 10.99 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.12 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.5
Tyler Smith PF | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.42 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.0
Alexandre Sarr C | Lane Agility: 11.43 | Shuttle Run: 3.23 | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.44 | Standing Vert: 30.5 | Max Vert: 37.0
Kel'el Ware C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.23 | Standing Vert: 32.5 | Max Vert: 36.0
Zach Edey C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.51 | Standing Vert: 26.0 | Max Vert: 31.5
Donovan Clingan C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.54 | Standing Vert: 25.5 | Max Vert: 29.0

https://twitter.com/HoopKeesee/status/1790062786896076808


@parkervb901
So… Edey is bigger, possibly faster, way more offensively skilled than Clingan but they’re supposed to be miles apart in their NBA potential? πŸ€”

@FearTheBrown
Edey has a faster lane agility time than Sarr, Missi, and of course Clingan. Clingan was downright slow.

It's not a fluke either - Edey's time last year would be faster than those three as well.



But ya'll were worried....

Draft Edey at 17 and hope that he doesn't up his stock into the top 10 prior to that point so that we still have a chance.


Dude, I'm gonna cry so bad when he's available at 17 and we draft another guard instead.

I'm already mentally preparing for it. I can never trust this FO to make THE ONE PICK WE ACTUALLY WANT. EVER!
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- Draft Zach Edey (or Kel'el Ware)
- Sign Jonas Valanciunas or Nicolas Claxton
- sign and trade DLO to not lose value
- sign a coach that’s not an idiot

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:43 am    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
MJST wrote:
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@_utilitysports
Donovan Clingan’s NBA Draft Combine measurements

πŸ€ 7’1.75” without shoes
πŸ€ 7’6.75” wingspan
πŸ€ 9’7” standing reach
πŸ€ 282 lbs

Zach Edey’s combine measurements

7’3.75” without shoes
7’10.75” wingspan
9’7” standing reach
299 lbs

Alexandre Sarr’s NBA Draft Combine Measurements:

6’11.75” without shoes
7’4.25” wingspan
9’2” standing reach
πŸ€ 224.2 lbs

All Combine Measurements here: https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1790015441496125829

No Ceilings
@NoCeilingsNBA
USC guard Bronny James #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'1.5" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 210.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'7.25" wingspan

Tennessee wing Dalton Knecht #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'5.25" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 212.2 lbs
πŸ€ 6'9" wingspan

Dayton big man DaRon Holmes II #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'8.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 236.2 lbs
πŸ€ 7'1" wingspan

Duke Blue Devil big man Kyle Filipowski #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'10.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 229.8 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10.5" wingspan

Baylor Bear wing Ja'Kobe Walter #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'4.25 (without shoes)
πŸ€ 197.6 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

Baylor Bear forward Jalen Bridges #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'6.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 213.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

@ryancassidycbb
Donovan Clingan at the NBA Combine

Not bad for 7'2 (video in link)

https://twitter.com/ryancassidycbb/status/1790057205825171608


@NBADraftWass

The race we’ve all been waiting for. Zach Edey edges Donovan Clingan in 3/4 sprint by .03 of a second.

Ryan Dunn 3.12 sec
Kel'el Ware 3.23 sec
Tyler Smith 3.42 sec
Alexandre Sarr 3.44 sec
Zach Edey 3.51 sec
Donovan Clingan 3.54 sec

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1790059470988382211


Something else to marinate on

Quote:

Chris Keesee (NBA Scouting)
@HoopKeesee

DUDE. Unofficial times, but Edey just beat Sarr in the lane agility testing by a comfortable amount

Ryan Dunn PF | Lane Agility: 10.99 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.12 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.5
Tyler Smith PF | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.42 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.0
Alexandre Sarr C | Lane Agility: 11.43 | Shuttle Run: 3.23 | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.44 | Standing Vert: 30.5 | Max Vert: 37.0
Kel'el Ware C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.23 | Standing Vert: 32.5 | Max Vert: 36.0
Zach Edey C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.51 | Standing Vert: 26.0 | Max Vert: 31.5
Donovan Clingan C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.54 | Standing Vert: 25.5 | Max Vert: 29.0

https://twitter.com/HoopKeesee/status/1790062786896076808


@parkervb901
So… Edey is bigger, possibly faster, way more offensively skilled than Clingan but they’re supposed to be miles apart in their NBA potential? πŸ€”

@FearTheBrown
Edey has a faster lane agility time than Sarr, Missi, and of course Clingan. Clingan was downright slow.

It's not a fluke either - Edey's time last year would be faster than those three as well.



But ya'll were worried....

Draft Edey at 17 and hope that he doesn't up his stock into the top 10 prior to that point so that we still have a chance.


Dude, I'm gonna cry so bad when he's available at 17 and we draft another guard instead.

I'm already mentally preparing for it. I can never trust this FO to make THE ONE PICK WE ACTUALLY WANT. EVER!


I'm fine with him or Kel'el Ware tbh. Edey if he's there, Ware if he's not.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:45 am    Post subject:

5 on 5 Rosters for Today

https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1790040850321338369
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:46 am    Post subject:

Hope Bronny can be Avery Bradley lite, pick pocket version of Alvarado, JJ/TJ pest kind
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:47 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Megaton wrote:
MJST wrote:
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@_utilitysports
Donovan Clingan’s NBA Draft Combine measurements

πŸ€ 7’1.75” without shoes
πŸ€ 7’6.75” wingspan
πŸ€ 9’7” standing reach
πŸ€ 282 lbs

Zach Edey’s combine measurements

7’3.75” without shoes
7’10.75” wingspan
9’7” standing reach
299 lbs

Alexandre Sarr’s NBA Draft Combine Measurements:

6’11.75” without shoes
7’4.25” wingspan
9’2” standing reach
πŸ€ 224.2 lbs

All Combine Measurements here: https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1790015441496125829

No Ceilings
@NoCeilingsNBA
USC guard Bronny James #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'1.5" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 210.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'7.25" wingspan

Tennessee wing Dalton Knecht #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'5.25" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 212.2 lbs
πŸ€ 6'9" wingspan

Dayton big man DaRon Holmes II #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'8.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 236.2 lbs
πŸ€ 7'1" wingspan

Duke Blue Devil big man Kyle Filipowski #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'10.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 229.8 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10.5" wingspan

Baylor Bear wing Ja'Kobe Walter #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'4.25 (without shoes)
πŸ€ 197.6 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

Baylor Bear forward Jalen Bridges #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'6.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 213.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

@ryancassidycbb
Donovan Clingan at the NBA Combine

Not bad for 7'2 (video in link)

https://twitter.com/ryancassidycbb/status/1790057205825171608


@NBADraftWass

The race we’ve all been waiting for. Zach Edey edges Donovan Clingan in 3/4 sprint by .03 of a second.

Ryan Dunn 3.12 sec
Kel'el Ware 3.23 sec
Tyler Smith 3.42 sec
Alexandre Sarr 3.44 sec
Zach Edey 3.51 sec
Donovan Clingan 3.54 sec

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1790059470988382211


Something else to marinate on

Quote:

Chris Keesee (NBA Scouting)
@HoopKeesee

DUDE. Unofficial times, but Edey just beat Sarr in the lane agility testing by a comfortable amount

Ryan Dunn PF | Lane Agility: 10.99 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.12 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.5
Tyler Smith PF | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.42 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.0
Alexandre Sarr C | Lane Agility: 11.43 | Shuttle Run: 3.23 | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.44 | Standing Vert: 30.5 | Max Vert: 37.0
Kel'el Ware C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.23 | Standing Vert: 32.5 | Max Vert: 36.0
Zach Edey C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.51 | Standing Vert: 26.0 | Max Vert: 31.5
Donovan Clingan C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.54 | Standing Vert: 25.5 | Max Vert: 29.0

https://twitter.com/HoopKeesee/status/1790062786896076808


@parkervb901
So… Edey is bigger, possibly faster, way more offensively skilled than Clingan but they’re supposed to be miles apart in their NBA potential? πŸ€”

@FearTheBrown
Edey has a faster lane agility time than Sarr, Missi, and of course Clingan. Clingan was downright slow.

It's not a fluke either - Edey's time last year would be faster than those three as well.



But ya'll were worried....

Draft Edey at 17 and hope that he doesn't up his stock into the top 10 prior to that point so that we still have a chance.


Dude, I'm gonna cry so bad when he's available at 17 and we draft another guard instead.

I'm already mentally preparing for it. I can never trust this FO to make THE ONE PICK WE ACTUALLY WANT. EVER!


I'm fine with him or Kel'el Ware tbh. Edey if he's there, Ware if he's not.


That would be great as well. But again, I can’t trust this FO to make good draft picks anymore. It’s gonna be another unathletic, uninspiring guard and then I’m gonna drink heavy vodka right after.
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- Draft Zach Edey (or Kel'el Ware)
- Sign Jonas Valanciunas or Nicolas Claxton
- sign and trade DLO to not lose value
- sign a coach that’s not an idiot

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 8:48 am    Post subject:

there's no superstars in this draft and at 17th pick, you're not going to sniff one even there are. just pick anyone who's over 6'6", athletic and has a solid jump shooting form. really, that's all they have to do.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 10:34 am    Post subject:

SGV-Laker fan wrote:
there's no superstars in this draft and at 17th pick, you're not going to sniff one even there are. just pick anyone who's over 6'6", athletic and has a solid jump shooting form. really, that's all they have to do.


pick is getting traded. not even going to waste a second thinking who it is
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 12:29 pm    Post subject:

Bron2AD wrote:
SGV-Laker fan wrote:
there's no superstars in this draft and at 17th pick, you're not going to sniff one even there are. just pick anyone who's over 6'6", athletic and has a solid jump shooting form. really, that's all they have to do.


pick is getting traded. not even going to waste a second thinking who it is



smh..You make that trade and lets even say your pie in the sky..donavan mitchell comes here...welp another guard with all the other PGs we got..lets see? Dim,Gabe,AR,Dlo,JHS,Mays..How many PGs you need? lmao! Ohhh by the way...DM needs the ball in his hands....DJM needs the ball in his hands....Kyrie needs the ball in his hands....Trea Young needs the ball in his hands...you want to know why?..BECAUSE THEY PGs!!!! ...Guess who else needs the ball in his hands? ...(whispering) this a secret..YOOOO KANG!

Prob your response to the above is:
"Wha wha what that mean?" That means SOMEBODY when YA KANG is on the floor with whatever PG ya get is going to be playing "catch and shoot"..now who you think thats going to be for the next 2-3 years? Hint go back and look at your previous PGs in the 3rd-4th qtr of every year..lol.


Now is if AD..D,,DDDD goes down..ummm who going to play center again? LBJ? Mitchel?..DJM?...nooooo? okay Trea Young must going to play center...or do we get retread Drummond or Val who even AD played off the floor everytime we met the Pelicans..smh.

Right now we cant beat Denver,,,,cant beat SAC,,,just one game we beat the Clippers...Gets dragged going against the Mavs....gets dragged going against Minn...What does all those teams got in common? pffft


Ohhh if this doesnt work..say hello to PHX..
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 12:59 pm    Post subject:

Dominic1981 wrote:
New Orleans should defer bc the draft is very weak. Last mock I saw was Reed Shepherd going #3. That’s insane. I watch lot of Kentucky games and he’s a good spot up shooter, but he’s far closer to being a Nik Stauskus than a true top 5 pick.


NOP should wait, Plus Next season the Lakers will be in the lottery so not only will it be a better draft but a better draft position.

It would be different If the Lakers FO had shown a commitment to a ship or the capability of constructing a roster for such. If that had been the case then take this year because next year with maybe with a Capella, a Murray, a Caruso type plus keeping Dlo/LBJ with AD the team would be much better, making this year more valuable, but, again sadly, such changes are unlikely.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 6:34 pm    Post subject:

I know I'm crying over spilled milk but just imagine how different our team would look if it still had AC and Zubac on it. Two young guys that we essentially gave away for free who fill needs.
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Ziggy wrote:
I know I'm crying over spilled milk but just imagine how different our team would look if it still had AC and Zubac on it. Two young guys that we essentially gave away for free who fill needs.


Ask Magic why he felt Mike Muscala was better than Zubac and why Corey Brewer was better than Lou Williams.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 7:15 pm    Post subject:

Yearly reminder that college 3Pr and FT% are actually predictive of ability to eventually shoot threes against live NBA defense. Not a 25 attempt sample in a combine setting.
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Yearly reminder that college 3Pr and FT% are actually predictive of ability to eventually shoot threes against live NBA defense. Not a 25 attempt sample in a combine setting.


yes. dereck lively was knocking down 3's at the workouts last year, and in the regular season he went 0/2, lol

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 9:16 pm    Post subject:

Zach Edey lane agility drill


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there's no superstars in this draft and at 17th pick, you're not going to sniff one even there are. just pick anyone who's over 6'6", athletic and has a solid jump shooting form. really, that's all they have to do.


pick is getting traded. not even going to waste a second thinking who it is



smh..You make that trade and lets even say your pie in the sky..donavan mitchell comes here...welp another guard with all the other PGs we got..lets see? Dim,Gabe,AR,Dlo,JHS,Mays..How many PGs you need? lmao! Ohhh by the way...DM needs the ball in his hands....DJM needs the ball in his hands....Kyrie needs the ball in his hands....Trea Young needs the ball in his hands...you want to know why?..BECAUSE THEY PGs!!!! ...Guess who else needs the ball in his hands? ...(whispering) this a secret..YOOOO KANG!

Prob your response to the above is:
"Wha wha what that mean?" That means SOMEBODY when YA KANG is on the floor with whatever PG ya get is going to be playing "catch and shoot"..now who you think thats going to be for the next 2-3 years? Hint go back and look at your previous PGs in the 3rd-4th qtr of every year..lol.


Now is if AD..D,,DDDD goes down..ummm who going to play center again? LBJ? Mitchel?..DJM?...nooooo? okay Trea Young must going to play center...or do we get retread Drummond or Val who even AD played off the floor everytime we met the Pelicans..smh.

Right now we cant beat Denver,,,,cant beat SAC,,,just one game we beat the Clippers...Gets dragged going against the Mavs....gets dragged going against Minn...What does all those teams got in common? pffft


Ohhh if this doesnt work..say hello to PHX..


A whole bunch of hodge-podge in that post, but I agree that DM is the new Marcus Banks. Do people really think he's going to be playing off ball with Bron out there? His usage rate is insane and he needs the ball in his hands to thrive. The only way it works is if Lakers move on from Bron but that's not happening.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 9:26 pm    Post subject:

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Zach Edey lane agility drill



Same thing gets done to Jokic in drop coverage or if someone pops to the perimeter instead of rolls. You have to be a shooter in order for it to work though, either from distance or from mid range.

I've seen guards try that on Edey and try to get past him, and they do if he overcommits just like they do to Jokic, but if they try to go at him they get blocked.

Again, there's no defensive weaknesses I see in Edey that I already didn't see in Jokic, and I wanted the Lakers to draft Jokic in the 2nd round and they didn't get the chance to because the 2nd rounder we traded with Washington wasn't till a few picks later. We left that draft with Randle and Clarkson. Had we left with Randle and Jokic, we'd very likely be in a different situation right now.

The fact Edey came into the Combine weighing 20 pounds less, and beating Sarr and Clingan in the agility drills should tell you something. Or we can ignore it at our own peril.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 4:01 am    Post subject:

I still say we should draft (and keep) Devin Carter and trade for a veteran center.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 5:18 am    Post subject:

Denny_Russo wrote:
JustaObserver wrote:
Bron2AD wrote:
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there's no superstars in this draft and at 17th pick, you're not going to sniff one even there are. just pick anyone who's over 6'6", athletic and has a solid jump shooting form. really, that's all they have to do.


pick is getting traded. not even going to waste a second thinking who it is



smh..You make that trade and lets even say your pie in the sky..donavan mitchell comes here...welp another guard with all the other PGs we got..lets see? Dim,Gabe,AR,Dlo,JHS,Mays..How many PGs you need? lmao! Ohhh by the way...DM needs the ball in his hands....DJM needs the ball in his hands....Kyrie needs the ball in his hands....Trea Young needs the ball in his hands...you want to know why?..BECAUSE THEY PGs!!!! ...Guess who else needs the ball in his hands? ...(whispering) this a secret..YOOOO KANG!

Prob your response to the above is:
"Wha wha what that mean?" That means SOMEBODY when YA KANG is on the floor with whatever PG ya get is going to be playing "catch and shoot"..now who you think thats going to be for the next 2-3 years? Hint go back and look at your previous PGs in the 3rd-4th qtr of every year..lol.


Now is if AD..D,,DDDD goes down..ummm who going to play center again? LBJ? Mitchel?..DJM?...nooooo? okay Trea Young must going to play center...or do we get retread Drummond or Val who even AD played off the floor everytime we met the Pelicans..smh.

Right now we cant beat Denver,,,,cant beat SAC,,,just one game we beat the Clippers...Gets dragged going against the Mavs....gets dragged going against Minn...What does all those teams got in common? pffft


Ohhh if this doesnt work..say hello to PHX..


A whole bunch of hodge-podge in that post, but I agree that DM is the new Marcus Banks. Do people really think he's going to be playing off ball with Bron out there? His usage rate is insane and he needs the ball in his hands to thrive. The only way it works is if Lakers move on from Bron but that's not happening.


hodge-podge? You just prove what i just said tho..lol. We treating a guy that we always wanted ie Marcus Banks and when we get him we scoff and see that it dont work..like ..well Cam Reddish. However this one is going to cost you BIG TIME...because the CBA is NOT PLAYING AROUND.

You also said it would work if Bron is not on the team....why is that? because both need the ball in their hand and one person going to have to play the catch and shoot role. Has LBJ played that role anytime in his LIFE?..lol..maybe with kyrie but that was when he was tired sooo...lol.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 5:27 am    Post subject:

lakersfan32 wrote:
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Yearly reminder that college 3Pr and FT% are actually predictive of ability to eventually shoot threes against live NBA defense. Not a 25 attempt sample in a combine setting.


yes. dereck lively was knocking down 3's at the workouts last year, and in the regular season he went 0/2, lol



That also can be flipped as how many threes did he attempt..a whole 2 for the season.

This kind of knocks out the premise that a big man now needs to be able to spread the floor...the Mavs DONT NEED him out there shooting threes. They need him as a lob threat, play defense and get a rebound. Can Edey do those things? Also can Edey use that jump hook and be effective because if he can then the back to the basket big man is back. Its all determined on the coach and how the coach uses him..maybe he will make him a midrange shooter..which its shown he can do that also..we dont know but we can see in the combine jjust like Lively that whatever is asked its not out of the question for him to do.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 7:19 am    Post subject:

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Zach Edey lane agility drill



Same thing gets done to Jokic in drop coverage or if someone pops to the perimeter instead of rolls. You have to be a shooter in order for it to work though, either from distance or from mid range.

I've seen guards try that on Edey and try to get past him, and they do if he overcommits just like they do to Jokic, but if they try to go at him they get blocked.

Again, there's no defensive weaknesses I see in Edey that I already didn't see in Jokic, and I wanted the Lakers to draft Jokic in the 2nd round and they didn't get the chance to because the 2nd rounder we traded with Washington wasn't till a few picks later. We left that draft with Randle and Clarkson. Had we left with Randle and Jokic, we'd very likely be in a different situation right now.

The fact Edey came into the Combine weighing 20 pounds less, and beating Sarr and Clingan in the agility drills should tell you something. Or we can ignore it at our own peril.


It'll be interesting to see if he can figure it out or if teams exploit him and run him off the court. He won't be on the Lakers because they've made every indication that they plan to trade their picks.
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manlisten wrote:
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manlisten wrote:
Zach Edey lane agility drill



Same thing gets done to Jokic in drop coverage or if someone pops to the perimeter instead of rolls. You have to be a shooter in order for it to work though, either from distance or from mid range.

I've seen guards try that on Edey and try to get past him, and they do if he overcommits just like they do to Jokic, but if they try to go at him they get blocked.

Again, there's no defensive weaknesses I see in Edey that I already didn't see in Jokic, and I wanted the Lakers to draft Jokic in the 2nd round and they didn't get the chance to because the 2nd rounder we traded with Washington wasn't till a few picks later. We left that draft with Randle and Clarkson. Had we left with Randle and Jokic, we'd very likely be in a different situation right now.

The fact Edey came into the Combine weighing 20 pounds less, and beating Sarr and Clingan in the agility drills should tell you something. Or we can ignore it at our own peril.


It'll be interesting to see if he can figure it out or if teams exploit him and run him off the court. He won't be on the Lakers because they've made every indication that they plan to trade their picks.



Who they going to trade for? Who they trading to get them? Any opposing team can beat their offers..same like the last trade deadline...why? 1 you dont have nothing to offer but your future which are picks and everytime you got anything AR or RUI YOU TRADE THEM for the NEXT SHINY TOY. Every GM is always trying to bend us over in a trade becasue they know you willing to take it an LEKANG and fans is pushing to do so..smh. Also this org still thinking back 20yrs ago ..but (whispering) Its something call the CBA..ITS GOING TO SHOW YOU BETTER THAN TELL YOU....


Idiots didnt learn nothing from the AD trade...but but got a ring..what you got after that?..a big fat zero and a bunch of narrowly making the playins...smh.
Idiots didnt learn nothing from the westbrook trade...smh...assets right out the door..


...heyy but this time got to work right?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 11:30 am    Post subject:

How can you be taller and have longer arms, yet have the same standing reach?

Good posture? More flexible spine?

It doesn't make sense to me.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 4:40 pm    Post subject:

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Donovan Clingan’s NBA Draft Combine measurements

πŸ€ 7’1.75” without shoes
πŸ€ 7’6.75” wingspan
πŸ€ 9’7” standing reach
πŸ€ 282 lbs

Zach Edey’s combine measurements

7’3.75” without shoes
7’10.75” wingspan
9’7” standing reach
299 lbs

Alexandre Sarr’s NBA Draft Combine Measurements:

6’11.75” without shoes
7’4.25” wingspan
9’2” standing reach
πŸ€ 224.2 lbs

All Combine Measurements here: https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1790015441496125829

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USC guard Bronny James #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'1.5" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 210.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'7.25" wingspan

Tennessee wing Dalton Knecht #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'5.25" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 212.2 lbs
πŸ€ 6'9" wingspan

Dayton big man DaRon Holmes II #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'8.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 236.2 lbs
πŸ€ 7'1" wingspan

Duke Blue Devil big man Kyle Filipowski #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'10.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 229.8 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10.5" wingspan

Baylor Bear wing Ja'Kobe Walter #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'4.25 (without shoes)
πŸ€ 197.6 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

Baylor Bear forward Jalen Bridges #NBADraft

πŸ€ 6'6.75" (without shoes)
πŸ€ 213.4 lbs
πŸ€ 6'10" wingspan

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Donovan Clingan at the NBA Combine

Not bad for 7'2 (video in link)

https://twitter.com/ryancassidycbb/status/1790057205825171608


@NBADraftWass

The race we’ve all been waiting for. Zach Edey edges Donovan Clingan in 3/4 sprint by .03 of a second.

Ryan Dunn 3.12 sec
Kel'el Ware 3.23 sec
Tyler Smith 3.42 sec
Alexandre Sarr 3.44 sec
Zach Edey 3.51 sec
Donovan Clingan 3.54 sec

https://twitter.com/NBADraftWass/status/1790059470988382211


Something else to marinate on

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DUDE. Unofficial times, but Edey just beat Sarr in the lane agility testing by a comfortable amount

Ryan Dunn PF | Lane Agility: 10.99 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.12 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.5
Tyler Smith PF | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.42 | Standing Vert: 32.0 | Max Vert: 38.0
Alexandre Sarr C | Lane Agility: 11.43 | Shuttle Run: 3.23 | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.44 | Standing Vert: 30.5 | Max Vert: 37.0
Kel'el Ware C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.23 | Standing Vert: 32.5 | Max Vert: 36.0
Zach Edey C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.51 | Standing Vert: 26.0 | Max Vert: 31.5
Donovan Clingan C | Lane Agility: 10.74 | Shuttle Run: DNP | Three Quarter Sprint: 3.54 | Standing Vert: 25.5 | Max Vert: 29.0

https://twitter.com/HoopKeesee/status/1790062786896076808


@parkervb901
So… Edey is bigger, possibly faster, way more offensively skilled than Clingan but they’re supposed to be miles apart in their NBA potential? πŸ€”

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Edey has a faster lane agility time than Sarr, Missi, and of course Clingan. Clingan was downright slow.

It's not a fluke either - Edey's time last year would be faster than those three as well.



But ya'll were worried....

Draft Edey at 17 and hope that he doesn't up his stock into the top 10 prior to that point so that we still have a chance.


Dude, I'm gonna cry so bad when he's available at 17 and we draft another guard instead.

I'm already mentally preparing for it. I can never trust this FO to make THE ONE PICK WE ACTUALLY WANT. EVER!


What's your draft approach at 17? Best player available or player who fills a great need?
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