Naw it's cool, that response was more of a reply to the poster who was trying to discredit some rappers by simply listing songs on their album meant for singles and completely ignored some good hip hop elsewhere on their album.
I'm sorry but I was not feeling those Rich Boy tracks. I'm not disagreeing about your point that every region has a slew of bad rappers. But you cannot deny the fact that the South has lowered the bar for Hip-Hop music. Not that it's isolated to the South, look at the Hyphy movement.
Drive By Bangers Vol 1
Intro
Above the Law " Murder Rap"
Above The Law "Black Superman"
Comptons Most Wanted "One Time Gaffled Em Up"
Comptons Most Wanted "Growin Up In The Hood"
Comptons Most Wanted "Hood Took Me Under"
Comptons Most Wanted "Def Wish (DJ Premier Re-mix)
Gang Starr ft Kurupt & The Lady Of Rage "You Know My Steez Remix"
Kurupt "Callin Out Names"
10. Kurupt ft Daz "On,Onsite"
11. Tha Dogg Pound "Push Bacc"
12. Tha Dogg Pound "If We All Fucc"
Tha Dogg Pound "Big Pimpin"
Tha Dogg Pound "Respect"
Tha Dogg Pound & Mack 10 "Nothin But The Cavi Hit"
Mack 10 "Hoo Bangin"
Mack 10 "Foe Life"
Ice Cube "Now I Gotta Wetcha"
Ice Cube "How To Survive In South Central"
Ice Cube "We Had To Tear This (bleep) Up"
Ice Cube "Get Off My Dick"
Ice Cube "Whos' The Mack"
Anotha Level ft Ice Cube "Level N Service"
WC "Jus Clownin"
Low Profile "Funky Song"
Low Profile "Pay Dues"
Volume 10 "Pistolgrip-Pump"
Volume 10 feat Ganjah K "A Real Freestyle"
2Pac feat Roger Troutman "California Love"
King Tee "Shake Da Spot"
King Tee "Ruff Rhyme"
King Tee "Got It Bad Y'all"
Tha Alkaholiks "Only When I'm Drunk"
Tash "Nightfall"
Xzibit "Los Angeles Times"
Ras Kass ft Coolio "Drama"
Coolio "County Line"
King Tee ft Ice Cube "King Tee's Beerstand"
Snoop Dogg ft Nate Dogg "St Ides Commercial"
The Dove Shack "Summertime In The LBC"
Twinz "Round & Round"
Shade Sheist ft Nate Dogg "Where I Wanna Be (Mike B's Shuggie Boogie Remix)
Nate Dogg "Music & Me"
Snoop Dogg ft Daz & Raphael Saadiq "Midnight Love"
Warren G ft Ron Isley "Smokin Me Out"
Nate Dogg "Me & My Homies"
Lloyd Banks ft Nate Dogg "Warrior pt 2"
DJ Quik "Born & Raised in Compton"
DJ Quik "Summer Breeze"
Suga Free "Why You (bleep)"
Shade Sheist ft DJ Quik "John Doe"
2nd II None "Be True To Yourself"
Hi-C "Leave My Curl Alone"
Hi-C feat DJ Quik, 2nd II None & AMG "2 Skanless"
Kid Frost "La Raza"
Cypress Hill "Dr Greenthumb"
Cypress Hill "When The (bleep) Goes Down"
Cypress Hill "Illusions"
NWA "8 Ball (remix)"
Eazy-E "Still Talkin' (bleep)"
Eazy-E "If U Want It"
Eazy-E "Gimme Dat Nut"
NWA "If It Ain't Ruff"
NWA "Chin Check"
The D.O.C. ft MC Ren, Ice Cube, Eazy E & Dr.Dre "The Grand Finale"
Naw it's cool, that response was more of a reply to the poster who was trying to discredit some rappers by simply listing songs on their album meant for singles and completely ignored some good hip hop elsewhere on their album.
I'm sorry but I was not feeling those Rich Boy tracks. I'm not disagreeing about your point that every region has a slew of bad rappers. But you cannot deny the fact that the South has lowered the bar for Hip-Hop music. Not that it's isolated to the South, look at the Hyphy movement.
Unfortunatly they have, but there are still a bunch of good rappers that come from the South whose reputations should not be categorized and tarnished by a bunch of no talent hags who are lucky to blow up because of catchy beat and a made for ringtone hook.
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:42 am Post subject:
LuxuryBrown wrote:
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Yeah, but that's kinda where I'm going with this. Puffy's main contribution (which includes his own take on new jack swing sound at Uptown) was in bringing all those elements together into a commercial successful brand of East Coast hip hop. That IS marketing, This enabled East Coast rappers to continue spinning hardcore narratives, while their look and sound helped cross them over with the kids.
Ehhhh....I just don't see it that way, bro. I can't credit Puff at all with an "East Coast brand of Hip Hop". Because he threw it so far into wack the moment he decided he wanted to spit, that it's at the point where it is now. Had he NEVER graced a mic, I think things would be different. But after Biggie died, he went and got Mase...and that was pretty much all she wrote for Hip Hop.
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Dre also lifted whole sections of songs -- main grooves, choruses, etc. -- too for The Chronic. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It was the idea of melding gangsta with "the happy" that was revolutionary.
But Dre made the groove his own by adding his own West Coast flavor that was found primarily at the roller skating rinks back in the day. Puff never had a "flavor" so to speak. Puff had a vision.
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I'll say this about Summertime though -- the internal rhymes, the detailed and specific imagery, the introspection, and smooth, calm flow. If Rakim really didn't write it, that's one damn, damn good imitation/impression.
Now THAT I'll gladly concede . Summertime was the joint!
we as a people need to be able to explain are selves in a more simple manner... lol... Puff never made tracks nor does he play instruments... he hires people to do that.... THE ONLY THING he does is tell then how he wants the sound to be played or placed... and then he cuts the check. In Short, Diddy made music HE LIKED.. and we happened to like it too. DONE _________________
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject:
Sir wrote:
LuxuryBrown wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, but that's kinda where I'm going with this. Puffy's main contribution (which includes his own take on new jack swing sound at Uptown) was in bringing all those elements together into a commercial successful brand of East Coast hip hop. That IS marketing, This enabled East Coast rappers to continue spinning hardcore narratives, while their look and sound helped cross them over with the kids.
Ehhhh....I just don't see it that way, bro. I can't credit Puff at all with an "East Coast brand of Hip Hop". Because he threw it so far into wack the moment he decided he wanted to spit, that it's at the point where it is now. Had he NEVER graced a mic, I think things would be different. But after Biggie died, he went and got Mase...and that was pretty much all she wrote for Hip Hop.
Quote:
Dre also lifted whole sections of songs -- main grooves, choruses, etc. -- too for The Chronic. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It was the idea of melding gangsta with "the happy" that was revolutionary.
But Dre made the groove his own by adding his own West Coast flavor that was found primarily at the roller skating rinks back in the day. Puff never had a "flavor" so to speak. Puff had a vision.
Quote:
I'll say this about Summertime though -- the internal rhymes, the detailed and specific imagery, the introspection, and smooth, calm flow. If Rakim really didn't write it, that's one damn, damn good imitation/impression.
Now THAT I'll gladly concede . Summertime was the joint!
we as a people need to be able to explain are selves in a more simple manner... lol... Puff never made tracks nor does he play instruments... he hires people to do that.... THE ONLY THING he does is tell then how he wants the sound to be played or placed... and then he cuts the check. In Short, Diddy made music HE LIKED.. and we happened to like it too. DONE
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject:
The End Game wrote:
Unfortunatly they have, but there are still a bunch of good rappers that come from the South whose reputations should not be categorized and tarnished by a bunch of no talent hags who are lucky to blow up because of catchy beat and a made for ringtone hook.
Agree. Unfortunately those rappers will never get the exposure they deserve. I'm not blaming everything on the South, the record companies are the main culprit. They promote singles and they don't care what artist has their 15 minutes of fame.
1. Clipse - Virginia (Lost Woods)
2. Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E. (Getting Treasure)
3. Jay-Z - No Hook (Meeting the Owl)
4. Pimp C, Lil' Keke, & P.O.P. - Knockin' Doorz Down (Hyrule Field)
5. Common - I Used to Love H.E.R. (Hyrule Market)
6. Aesop Rock - No Jumper Cables (Goron Village)
7. Edan - Fumbling Over Words (Battle)
8. MF Doom - Vomit (Horse Race at Lon Lon Ranch)
9. Spank Rock - IMC (Zora's Domain)
10. Slim Thug & Mike Jones - Still Tippin' (Great Fairy's Fountain)
Drive By Bangers Vol 1
Intro
Above the Law " Murder Rap"
Above The Law "Black Superman"
Comptons Most Wanted "One Time Gaffled Em Up"
Comptons Most Wanted "Growin Up In The Hood"
Comptons Most Wanted "Hood Took Me Under"
Comptons Most Wanted "Def Wish (DJ Premier Re-mix)
Gang Starr ft Kurupt & The Lady Of Rage "You Know My Steez Remix"
Kurupt "Callin Out Names"
10. Kurupt ft Daz "On,Onsite"
11. Tha Dogg Pound "Push Bacc"
12. Tha Dogg Pound "If We All Fucc"
Tha Dogg Pound "Big Pimpin"
Tha Dogg Pound "Respect"
Tha Dogg Pound & Mack 10 "Nothin But The Cavi Hit"
Mack 10 "Hoo Bangin"
Mack 10 "Foe Life"
Ice Cube "Now I Gotta Wetcha"
Ice Cube "How To Survive In South Central"
Ice Cube "We Had To Tear This (bleep) Up"
Ice Cube "Get Off My Dick"
Ice Cube "Whos' The Mack"
Anotha Level ft Ice Cube "Level N Service"
WC "Jus Clownin"
Low Profile "Funky Song"
Low Profile "Pay Dues"
Volume 10 "Pistolgrip-Pump"
Volume 10 feat Ganjah K "A Real Freestyle"
2Pac feat Roger Troutman "California Love"
King Tee "Shake Da Spot"
King Tee "Ruff Rhyme"
King Tee "Got It Bad Y'all"
Tha Alkaholiks "Only When I'm Drunk"
Tash "Nightfall"
Xzibit "Los Angeles Times"
Ras Kass ft Coolio "Drama"
Coolio "County Line"
King Tee ft Ice Cube "King Tee's Beerstand"
Snoop Dogg ft Nate Dogg "St Ides Commercial"
The Dove Shack "Summertime In The LBC"
Twinz "Round & Round"
Shade Sheist ft Nate Dogg "Where I Wanna Be (Mike B's Shuggie Boogie Remix)
Nate Dogg "Music & Me"
Snoop Dogg ft Daz & Raphael Saadiq "Midnight Love"
Warren G ft Ron Isley "Smokin Me Out"
Nate Dogg "Me & My Homies"
Lloyd Banks ft Nate Dogg "Warrior pt 2"
DJ Quik "Born & Raised in Compton"
DJ Quik "Summer Breeze"
Suga Free "Why You (bleep)"
Shade Sheist ft DJ Quik "John Doe"
2nd II None "Be True To Yourself"
Hi-C "Leave My Curl Alone"
Hi-C feat DJ Quik, 2nd II None & AMG "2 Skanless"
Kid Frost "La Raza"
Cypress Hill "Dr Greenthumb"
Cypress Hill "When The (bleep) Goes Down"
Cypress Hill "Illusions"
NWA "8 Ball (remix)"
Eazy-E "Still Talkin' (bleep)"
Eazy-E "If U Want It"
Eazy-E "Gimme Dat Nut"
NWA "If It Ain't Ruff"
NWA "Chin Check"
The D.O.C. ft MC Ren, Ice Cube, Eazy E & Dr.Dre "The Grand Finale"
1. Clipse - Virginia (Lost Woods)
2. Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E. (Getting Treasure)
3. Jay-Z - No Hook (Meeting the Owl)
4. Pimp C, Lil' Keke, & P.O.P. - Knockin' Doorz Down (Hyrule Field)
5. Common - I Used to Love H.E.R. (Hyrule Market)
6. Aesop Rock - No Jumper Cables (Goron Village)
7. Edan - Fumbling Over Words (Battle)
8. MF Doom - Vomit (Horse Race at Lon Lon Ranch)
9. Spank Rock - IMC (Zora's Domain)
10. Slim Thug & Mike Jones - Still Tippin' (Great Fairy's Fountain)
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