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mrdectown Star Player
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 1144
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: OT: KG Yells at team for having no passion!! |
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http://www.startribune.com/511/story/301033.html
This is working out just like we want. _________________ I guess i'm not a business suit wearin guy like you,I'm a gangsta i suppose. Avon Barksdale |
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astrallionheart Star Player
Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 1292 Location: Windbloom
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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I have this feeling that KG is gonna keep truckin' it until he's 30-something and finally signs a minimum contract with some title contender. |
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Shaber Star Player
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 3733 Location: The other side
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Actually, I feel sorry for KG. What a great player. And no success whatsoever. It has been like that with AI as well. And unless the trades come or unless Kobe+Lamar will get their chemistry together and the rest of the team will improve it will be the same in LAL. One superstar team that is fun to watch at times but never a contender. |
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mrdectown Star Player
Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 1144
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: |
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at this point i dont think anybody would think any less of him if he demands a trade. He's to good for that team. _________________ I guess i'm not a business suit wearin guy like you,I'm a gangsta i suppose. Avon Barksdale |
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OdomX2 Star Player
Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 3973
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Pot meet kettle. It's always the "team" isn't it "Big Ticket" |
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mrdectown Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:22 am Post subject: |
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OdomX2 wrote: | Pot meet kettle. It's always the "team" isn't it "Big Ticket" |
Explain if you will. _________________ I guess i'm not a business suit wearin guy like you,I'm a gangsta i suppose. Avon Barksdale |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58525
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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This happens every year.
I no longer feel bad for KG. He should have demanded a trade last season when he saw that the Lakers were after him and that Phil had signed with us. What did he think was going to happen this season in Minny? That the team make a turnaround with that sort of talent and coaching?
There's no gurantees in life, but if you have Phil+Kobe - That's as good as it gets for KG.
He passed and was actually upset at that report that he was being traded (This is unconfirmed but from a very good T-Wolves source on Real GM)
Anyway, let's see what happens. I don't think KG will happen anymore. I think he just wants to retire in Minny. They will probably keep him and trade everyone around him each season until they get back into the playoffs. |
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OdomX2 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: |
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mrdectown wrote: | OdomX2 wrote: | Pot meet kettle. It's always the "team" isn't it "Big Ticket" |
Explain if you will. |
Really? Look at the guys playoff record. one trip in what 9 years? Two years ago it was Sprewell and Cassell's fault, then it was Wally's fault. Maybe Garnett should look in the mirror more often. |
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Drifts Retired Number
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28445
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: |
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flying monitors do the trick better, KG should learn from the best...yelling won't do him (bleep), ain't good enough. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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doughboy Starting Rotation
Joined: 21 Apr 2001 Posts: 127 Location: LA, CALI
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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I hate to say it but you can see this coming, the frustration is starting to hit KG that this is probably the worst team he have been on in his entire career in Minnesota. Glen Taylor the owner do plan to sit down with him after the season, I won't be surprise if this is KG last year there. We know the Lakers name will be mention all summer long that he is coming here, but I don't know if we have enough to offer without throwing in LO or Bynum in the mix and a lot of draft picks. If he don't come here look for a team like Golden State to offer up some of there young talent and draft picks to get him. |
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tw-lakbfan Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2001 Posts: 16636
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Didn't KG already say that he would retire a Wolf? |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 12898 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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I don't feel sorry for KG at all. Sorry, I don't.
I don't mind players going for their cheddar. I hope they get all they can. But they have to understand that comes with its own price. It's like when Vince re-signed with Toronto for all that money and then got mad because they weren't winning. Same with Baron Davis. If you're gonna commit the best 6-7 years of your career, and winning is important you, maybe you should try to find a team that's known for building winners and bite the bullet with the cash.
Kevin took a paycut so Minny could sign 2 guys well into their 30s. Not smart. But there is a way out. He does have choices. If he wants to maintain his same money, he either has to pull a Shaq (threaten to sit out the season, get surgery) or he has to pull a Vince (actually sit out for long stretches with make-believe injuries). Either way, he won't look like a very nice guy, and he'll have to live with the criticism that comes along with that.
Kevin screamin and yellin at people isn't gonna change anything. He needs to change his own situation. |
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twoface723 Star Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 3751 Location: University of Texas
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: |
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hoopschick29 wrote: | I don't feel sorry for KG at all. Sorry, I don't.
I don't mind players going for their cheddar. I hope they get all they can. But they have to understand that comes with its own price. It's like when Vince re-signed with Toronto for all that money and then got mad because they weren't winning. Same with Baron Davis. If you're gonna commit the best 6-7 years of your career, and winning is important you, maybe you should try to find a team that's known for building winners and bite the bullet with the cash.
Kevin took a paycut so Minny could sign 2 guys well into their 30s. Not smart. But there is a way out. He does have choices. If he wants to maintain his same money, he either has to pull a Shaq (threaten to sit out the season, get surgery) or he has to pull a Vince (actually sit out for long stretches with make-believe injuries). Either way, he won't look like a very nice guy, and he'll have to live with the criticism that comes along with that.
Kevin screamin and yellin at people isn't gonna change anything. He needs to change his own situation. |
Agreed. I kinda feel bad for him when I see him playing because he is so competitive (probably the second most competitive guy in the NBA right now besides Kobe), but you're right; he put himself in that situation. |
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hig Star Player
Joined: 31 Oct 2001 Posts: 4844 Location: Suckramento
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:14 am Post subject: |
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tw-lakbfan wrote: | Didn't KG already say that he would retire a Wolf? |
Didn't Shaq say that he wouldn't play for any other coach besides PJ?? :roll: _________________ "Kobe, Kobe, Kobe and some more Kobe, with a sprinkling of Kobe and a huge fat scoop of double Kobe with Kobe sprinkles and Kobe sauce"
----CL member bumrusherer after Kobe's 52 pt. game vs. Dallas 03/02/08 |
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BigAssLakerFan Star Player
Joined: 15 Jun 2003 Posts: 9048 Location: born in LA, living in SA
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: |
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I always felt bad for KG BEFORE this season. We always say, poor guy he's amazing (former MVP) but he has no help, BUT take a look at this Laker team right now. KB has probaby the worst supporting cast, but his will and skill is leading this team into the playoffs, so I really don't feel that bad for KG. |
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Zhengi Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:32 am Post subject: |
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BigAssLakerFan wrote: | I always felt bad for KG BEFORE this season. We always say, poor guy he's amazing (former MVP) but he has no help, BUT take a look at this Laker team right now. KB has probaby the worst supporting cast, but his will and skill is leading this team into the playoffs, so I really don't feel that bad for KG. |
Preach on brother!
If KG wants to win, come to LA. Otherwise, I don't feel sorry for him at all either. _________________ I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce! |
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angel Franchise Player
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 14226 Location: city of angels
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't mind trading for KG, but a superstar player will never get his value back. Any other team that gets him won't have instant results. By the time he's part of a Champion he will likely be in the downside of his career. That is why the Lakers should not trade Bynum to get him. _________________ "Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that." ~~Martin Luther King Jr.~~ |
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CheetahMan Starting Rotation
Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 886 Location: LaaLaa Nation
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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BigAssLakerFan wrote: | I always felt bad for KG BEFORE this season. We always say, poor guy he's amazing (former MVP) but he has no help, BUT take a look at this Laker team right now. KB has probaby the worst supporting cast, but his will and skill is leading this team into the playoffs, so I really don't feel that bad for KG. |
True. KG's problem is that he lacks the drive and clutchness to make those baskets at the end of pretty even games. I can't recall who was behind these words, but the fact is that "the KG you've got for the last five minutes is totally different to the KG you've in the first five". Where Kobe takes and makes those shots, Garnett dissapears. He needs someone to make those shots and for now I can name only a few. Kobe, Rob, Vince at times, Chauncey and Carmelo. The scary part is that Denver could make a run at him and offer a nice package for McHale. _________________ I want to say something about Dwayne Wade, but I fear I may get called for a foul.
-- Warren, Ludington, Mich. |
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DaggerInTheHeart Star Player
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 1459 Location: Sunshine State
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Zhengi wrote: | Preach on brother!
If KG wants to win, come to LA. Otherwise, I don't feel sorry for him at all either. |
At this point i think KG wants to go anywhere were he can win, i don't think he can force himself to stay with that Organization. |
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Flight Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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He needs to sign with the Lakers once he gets a chance. KG + Kobe = Deadly. |
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angel Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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KG won't be a free agent until 2008. By that time he will be 32 and nearing the end of his prime. Unless they trade for him this Summer, it may be too late. _________________ "Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that." ~~Martin Luther King Jr.~~ |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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If the Lakers can hold onto their playoff position, and give a good fight in the 1st round, then maybe he'll see that he can be the missing piece here.
I think Chicago can probably make the best offer to get him. They have a lot of young talent and they have New York's pick this year, which will most likely be the #1 overall pick (another brilliant move by Isiah Thomas).
Unless KG demands a trade to L.A., it won't happen. Hopefully he and Kobe do some bonding this summer. |
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angel Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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KG knows and respects Kobe. He may demand a trade to the Lakers. _________________ "Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that." ~~Martin Luther King Jr.~~ |
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astrallionheart Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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CheetahMan wrote: | I can't recall who was behind these words, but the fact is that "the KG you've got for the last five minutes is totally different to the KG you've in the first five". . |
Well Scottie Pippen was the high profile celeb who actually said it, but everyone (basketball fans) knew this for the last 4-5 years watching him in the playoffs anyway.
He might be a great consistent guy in the regular season, but his FG% drops to around 45 in the playoffs, and his TOs skyrocket to nearly 4. He's more comfortable playing second fiddle; I mean even in the Wolves offense a lot of his scoring is looking invisible; just hiding on the wing for long jumpers. |
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Socks Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I feel for him because he's a great player with a lot of love and passion for the game and his team. It sucks that he's constantly in a losing situation. His game is amazing, but he's not the closer type that Kobe is, so it's tough for him to simply will his teams to victory. Plus, don't underestimate the Lakers' front office, experienced coaching staff, and culture of winning as part of the reason the Lakers are driving towards the playoffs while the Wolves continue to struggle.
It's true though, KG controls his own destiny. The only way he solves this frustration is to leave. |
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