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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:02 pm Post subject: Thin Skinned Knicks Owner Apparently Gives Fan a Perma-Ban |
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Douchebag James Dolan threatens to ban fan who tells him to sell Knicks
As Dolan walked away from his courtside seat at Madison Square Garden in the closing minutes of the Knicks’ loss to the Kings on Saturday afternoon, a fan yelled “Sell the team!” at the billionaire owner, as seen in a video posted by TMZ.
Dolan, flanked by security guards, stopped by the railing and responded to the fan by saying, “Do you really think I should sell the team?” He then asked the fan if he would like to not come to anymore Knicks games and called him rude. The unidentified fan asked why he wouldn’t be able to come to games and said he was just giving “an opinion.”
“No, it’s not an opinion,” Dolan said as he walked off into the tunnel. “And you know what, enjoy watching them on TV.”
Dolan then signaled for security to deal with the fan, who was held while two cops and security arrived to ID and question him before instructing him to leave, according to TMZ. It is not clear if the fan has been banned.
“Our policy is and will continue to be that if you are disrespectful to anyone in our venues, we will ask you not to return,” a Garden spokesperson said in a statement Saturday evening. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Meh. owner can do what he wants imo _________________ Kobe |
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if the transcription is accurate, then yeah, "Sell the team" is not derogatory. I would not yell it at someone in public, but it is just a statement of preference. Now if he said "Sell the team a-hole".....then I would agree with the owner. Fans at sporting events cross line way too often....cheering and booing are great, I am ok with even letting the ref know he sucks (as long as you do not refer to him by his legal name) but you cant be throwing out cruse words and fighting words to the players or even other fans. |
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Chronicle wrote: | Meh. owner can do what he wants imo |
So what! What are you gonna tell me Schiavone, you can shoot somebody outside the ring, as long as it’s outside the ring?! _________________ "The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.", said Bret Hart regarding the Los Angeles Lakers. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Dolan is a (bleep)
If players can take far worse abuse than that and not retaliate
An owner shouldn’t be held to less of a standard either |
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BadGuy Star Player
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Well-deserved imo. Buying a ticket affords you the privilege of watching the game in the arena, not being an annoying (bleep), who ruins the experience for other people at the game. Far too many people getting lit at games and trolling these days, so, hopefully, this ban sends a message. |
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Why does James Dolan want to own the Knicks? _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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ocho wrote: | Why does James Dolan want to own the Knicks? |
Why do the super rich buy sports teams? Because they can. |
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I'm always glad the Knicks are around to remind me my team can always be in worse shape.....
Plus their dysfunction provides such entertainment.
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lakersken80 wrote: | ocho wrote: | Why does James Dolan want to own the Knicks? |
Why do the super rich buy sports teams? Because they can. |
Sure. But it has been several decades now. He's absolutely despised by every last Knicks fan to the point of being heckled in public and private. From the looks of this video, the Oakley incident, and Dolan's leaked email missives he very clearly is bothered by the criticism. He also exhibits at best an antipathy towards the franchise. It doesn't seem like he loves basketball or the Knicks in general. He'd get probably around four billion dollars for the team. What is he holding on to? _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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Just remember when you think we have it bad, there is always the NY Knicks... |
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BadGuy wrote: | Well-deserved imo. Buying a ticket affords you the privilege of watching the game in the arena, not being an annoying (bleep), who ruins the experience for other people at the game. Far too many people getting lit at games and trolling these days, so, hopefully, this ban sends a message.
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I think there are certainly limits to behavior, but customers have the right to express satisfaction or the lack thereof. Cheering and booing teams and players is within the norm, why would an owner who shows up and sits among the fans be above hearing a bit of what the fans think? _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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ocho wrote: | Why does James Dolan want to own the Knicks? |
just look at the asset valuation increase over the recent decade....where else could he put that money that it would consistently grow at that rate? |
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Dladi Vidac wrote: | Chronicle wrote: | Meh. owner can do what he wants imo |
So what! What are you gonna tell me Schiavone, you can shoot somebody outside the ring, as long as it’s outside the ring?! |
Dolan acts like Mr. Angelino. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
SEDALE TRIBUTE
EDDIE DONX! |
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Durant and Kyries diva personalities will fit right in _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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ocho wrote: | Why does James Dolan want to own the Knicks? |
Perhaps due to the fact that even with his incredibly inept management, they were still ranked the most valuable NBA Franchise.
It is amazing they are so consistently bad decade after decade. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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LakerLanny wrote: | ocho wrote: | Why does James Dolan want to own the Knicks? |
Perhaps due to the fact that even with his incredibly inept management, they were still ranked the most valuable NBA Franchise.
It is amazing they are so consistently bad decade after decade. |
He owns MSG, so he is a property owner as well. That is why the Knicks top the valuations of all NBA teams. |
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adkindo wrote: | ocho wrote: | Why does James Dolan want to own the Knicks? |
just look at the asset valuation increase over the recent decade....where else could he put that money that it would consistently grow at that rate? |
That's true. I guess if I had the choice of being a billionaire or being a billionaire in a city where everybody hates me and I'm consistently harassed I'd take the former. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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Omar Little wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | Well-deserved imo. Buying a ticket affords you the privilege of watching the game in the arena, not being an annoying (bleep), who ruins the experience for other people at the game. Far too many people getting lit at games and trolling these days, so, hopefully, this ban sends a message.
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I think there are certainly limits to behavior, but customers have the right to express satisfaction or the lack thereof. Cheering and booing teams and players is within the norm, why would an owner who shows up and sits among the fans be above hearing a bit of what the fans think? |
I guess I see it as akin to visiting someone in their house and cursing them out. They have the right to ask you to leave. Granted, I think Dolan should be able to ignore people, but, as someone who grew up in NYC, I can confidently say NYC fans are some of the most obnoxious in the world. He probably gets heckled numerous times at every game, and this particular fan was made an example of to try to decrease these occurrences. |
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BadGuy wrote: | Well-deserved imo. Buying a ticket affords you the privilege of watching the game in the arena, not being an annoying (bleep), who ruins the experience for other people at the game. Far too many people getting lit at games and trolling these days, so, hopefully, this ban sends a message. |
So can a fan say that a player is playing lousy and the team should trade him?
Can a fan say that the coach sucks and the team should trade him?
How about bad mouthing a ref??
Should the players be able to respond to those fans negatively and have them removed from the stadium??
Dolan is a douche bag, you simply cannot support this type of behavior without also supporting it for everyone else in the game. Players, FO members, coaches, refs and owners.
Honestly, I cannot understand why ANY NBA FA would consider signing with this man. I really hope this concept catches on with the players. The players should blacklist this A-hole and force him to sell the team.
https://youtu.be/UZuf7XBrao4 _________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain |
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BadGuy wrote: | Omar Little wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | Well-deserved imo. Buying a ticket affords you the privilege of watching the game in the arena, not being an annoying (bleep), who ruins the experience for other people at the game. Far too many people getting lit at games and trolling these days, so, hopefully, this ban sends a message.
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I think there are certainly limits to behavior, but customers have the right to express satisfaction or the lack thereof. Cheering and booing teams and players is within the norm, why would an owner who shows up and sits among the fans be above hearing a bit of what the fans think? |
I guess I see it as akin to visiting someone in their house and cursing them out. They have the right to ask you to leave. Granted, I think Dolan should be able to ignore people, but, as someone who grew up in NYC, I can confidently say NYC fans are some of the most obnoxious in the world. He probably gets heckled numerous times at every game, and this particular fan was made an example of to try to decrease these occurrences. |
It's NOT the same man, this is professional sports and like it or not, this is pretty normal behavior. _________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain |
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Wino wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | Well-deserved imo. Buying a ticket affords you the privilege of watching the game in the arena, not being an annoying (bleep), who ruins the experience for other people at the game. Far too many people getting lit at games and trolling these days, so, hopefully, this ban sends a message. |
So can a fan say that a player is playing lousy and the team should trade him?
Can a fan say that the coach sucks and the team should trade him?
How about bad mouthing a ref??
Should the players be able to respond to those fans negatively and have them removed from the stadium??
Dolan is a douche bag, you simply cannot support this type of behavior without also supporting it for everyone else in the game. Players, FO members, coaches, refs and owners.
Honestly, I cannot understand why ANY NBA FA would consider signing with this man. I really hope this concept catches on with the players. The players should blacklist this A-hole and force him to sell the team.
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If a fan is unable to enjoy a game without harassing NBA members (players, refs, owners, training staff, etc.) on the court beyond simple boos/cheers, that fan should be removed imo. There have been incidents already with fans harassing players and eventually getting removed from the games. The difference here is that the owner can make the decision immediately without needing to consult with anyone else.
Just because classless behavior by fans is common does not mean it should be supported. Fans are present in the arena to be spectators or observers, not active participants continually disrupting the game. If this is too difficult for some fans, there are places to watch the game with almost no rules involved: at home or a local bar. |
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BadGuy wrote: | Wino wrote: | BadGuy wrote: | Well-deserved imo. Buying a ticket affords you the privilege of watching the game in the arena, not being an annoying (bleep), who ruins the experience for other people at the game. Far too many people getting lit at games and trolling these days, so, hopefully, this ban sends a message. |
So can a fan say that a player is playing lousy and the team should trade him?
Can a fan say that the coach sucks and the team should trade him?
How about bad mouthing a ref??
Should the players be able to respond to those fans negatively and have them removed from the stadium??
Dolan is a douche bag, you simply cannot support this type of behavior without also supporting it for everyone else in the game. Players, FO members, coaches, refs and owners.
Honestly, I cannot understand why ANY NBA FA would consider signing with this man. I really hope this concept catches on with the players. The players should blacklist this A-hole and force him to sell the team.
https://youtu.be/UZuf7XBrao4 |
If a fan is unable to enjoy a game without harassing NBA members (players, refs, owners, training staff, etc.) on the court beyond simple boos/cheers, that fan should be removed imo. There have been incidents already with fans harassing players and eventually getting removed from the games. The difference here is that the owner can make the decision immediately without needing to consult with anyone else.
Just because classless behavior by fans is common does not mean it should be supported. Fans are present in the arena to be spectators or observers, not active participants continually disrupting the game. If this is too difficult for some fans, there are places to watch the game with almost no rules involved: at home or a local bar. |
And the world should NEVER have wars but there are still going to be wars!!
You are asking for something that is never going to happen. And up to now, it has been tolerated all around the world. Tell it to the fans of major soccer teams, they would beat you to a pulp just for suggesting it to them. I mean come on, get off your high horse. You sound like the nerdy professor trying to explain why people should be nice and polite. Not that your wrong or don't have a fair idea, it's just that 95% of the world thinks you are an a-hole and 75% of them would be willing to punk you for it.
Seriously telling people that they should be good boys while they watch the game and always be polite. Bwahahaha, did Jesus tell you to say that??
Good luck, the world today must make you very unhappy. ??? _________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain |
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