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scout_0 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Dennis100mtrash wrote: | Hams lapdog is starting no matter what.
Winning is not important him starting is |
My brothers ours prayers have been heard _________________ D'Angelo finals M.V.P |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | The players we saw in Game 3 of the season against the Pelicans 2/15/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt
Lebron James
Malik Beasley
D'angelo Russell |
Bench
Mo Bamba
Rui Hachimura
Troy Brown Jr.
Dennis Schroder
Austin Reaves _________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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It seems like Darvin wants to have 2 of Bron/DLO/Schro on the floor at all times with AR sprinkled in throughout. Makes a ton of sense to have multiple playmakers on the floor at all times. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | epic_ wrote: | The players we saw in Game 3 of the season against the Pelicans 2/15/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt
Lebron James
Malik Beasley
D'angelo Russell |
Bench
Mo Bamba
Rui Hachimura
Troy Brown Jr.
Dennis Schroder
Austin Reaves |
Austin could start in place of Beasley but this works fine as well.
I do feel for Lonnie who was playing fantastic here and there earlier in the year and in a contract year is not out the rotation in place of Brown and mostly Dennis. Between he and Dennis, only one can get regular mins and I guess Ham favors DS. I personally would have bench unit be Bamba, Rui, Brown, Lonnie, Austin. |
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scout_0 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | epic_ wrote: | The players we saw in Game 3 of the season against the Pelicans 2/15/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt
Lebron James
Malik Beasley
D'angelo Russell |
Bench
Mo Bamba
Rui Hachimura
Troy Brown Jr.
Dennis Schroder
Austin Reaves |
Austin could start in place of Beasley but this works fine as well.
I do feel for Lonnie who was playing fantastic here and there earlier in the year and in a contract year is not out the rotation in place of Brown and mostly Dennis. Between he and Dennis, only one can get regular mins and I guess Ham favors DS. I personally would have bench unit be Bamba, Rui, Brown, Lonnie, Austin. |
D'lo and Beasley 3 pt volume is the only thing allowing vando to be on the floor with Davis and Bron. Wouldn't work at the same level with Reaves. _________________ D'Angelo finals M.V.P |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | epic_ wrote: | The players we saw in Game 3 of the season against the Pelicans 2/15/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt
Lebron James
Malik Beasley
D'angelo Russell |
Bench
Mo Bamba
Rui Hachimura
Troy Brown Jr.
Dennis Schroder
Austin Reaves |
Austin could start in place of Beasley but this works fine as well.
I do feel for Lonnie who was playing fantastic here and there earlier in the year and in a contract year is not out the rotation in place of Brown and mostly Dennis. Between he and Dennis, only one can get regular mins and I guess Ham favors DS. I personally would have bench unit be Bamba, Rui, Brown, Lonnie, Austin. |
In my own lineup I had Austin starting.
But I think Beasley starting is good for the team as a whole.
Having Austin off the bench gives us 2 semi play makers in the 2nd unit with Dennis. With 2 in the starting lineup with Bron and DLo. _________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Lakers had 32 assists on 44 buckets, and got to the FT line 36 times. |
Recipe for success. _________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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scout_0 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Quote: | Lakers had 32 assists on 44 buckets, and got to the FT line 36 times. |
Recipe for success. |
10/37 3PT FG
14 MISSED FT
120 POINTS
+18
this offense is looking promising _________________ D'Angelo finals M.V.P |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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scout_0 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Quote: | Lakers had 32 assists on 44 buckets, and got to the FT line 36 times. |
Recipe for success. |
10/37 3PT FG
14 MISSED FT
120 POINTS
+18
this offense is looking promising |
Can you believe we only have 2 guys who make the vet min in this 10 man rotation? And they're both off the bench? Man having a real roster is fantastic! _________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think the best rotation Ham did this season is the 2nd Half vs the Pelicans. He immediately subbed Bron in after all the starters are resting. Ham rest Bron early in the 3rd and put him back late im the 3rd together with the bench mob, and that is where they blew out the Pelicans. |
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | epic_ wrote: | The players we saw in Game 3 of the season against the Pelicans 2/15/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt
Lebron James
Malik Beasley
D'angelo Russell |
Bench
Mo Bamba
Rui Hachimura
Troy Brown Jr.
Dennis Schroder
Austin Reaves |
Should not let all those 5 bench players play together at the same time on the court though, they need Bron or DLo to lead them, like what Ham did in the 2nd half. |
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sonic the laker Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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leking006 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | epic_ wrote: | The players we saw in Game 3 of the season against the Pelicans 2/15/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt
Lebron James
Malik Beasley
D'angelo Russell |
Bench
Mo Bamba
Rui Hachimura
Troy Brown Jr.
Dennis Schroder
Austin Reaves |
Should not let all those 5 bench players play together at the same time on the court though, they need Bron or DLo to lead them, like what Ham did in the 2nd half. |
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing that second squad play together. But, instead of constantly watching Dennis probe from the perimeter, I would play through Rui in the post. Also, mix in some motion offense involving Reaves. _________________ ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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markjay Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | DLO
Beasley
Vandy
Lebron
AD
I'd be good w/ this lineup.
I know people like Rui, but we need a hustle wing next to AD and Lebron.
He and AD will help cover the defensive deficiencies of DLO and Beas. |
One nice advantage of this group, which we saw starting tonite, is that Dlo, Beasley, and Vandy all played together on Minny and have good chemistry together. Can make the adjustment to the new team faster and easier, which is a big plus when there is little room for error. |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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The players we saw in Game 3 of the season against the Pelicans 2/15/2023:
Starters
Anthony Davis
Jarred Vanderbilt
Lebron James
Malik Beasley
D'angelo Russell
Bench
Mo Bamba
Rui Hachimura
Troy Brown Jr.
Dennis Schroder
Austin Reaves
DNP/Victory Cigars
Max Christie
Davon Reed
Lonnie Walker IV
Wenyen Gabriel _________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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markjay wrote: | epic_ wrote: | DLO
Beasley
Vandy
Lebron
AD
I'd be good w/ this lineup.
I know people like Rui, but we need a hustle wing next to AD and Lebron.
He and AD will help cover the defensive deficiencies of DLO and Beas. |
One nice advantage of this group, which we saw starting tonite, is that Dlo, Beasley, and Vandy all played together on Minny and have good chemistry together. Can make the adjustment to the new team faster and easier, which is a big plus when there is little room for error. |
True. And like Mo and DLo said, when you have AD and Lebron it's easy to fit in.
I know we all love the new lineup. But man, having Lebron back is such a difference. _________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | LAbound
@LAbound2
The Lakers new starting unit vs NOP:
13 Minutes
134.6 ORtg
100 DRtg
NET +34.6 |
_________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:33 am Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Quote: | Lakers had 32 assists on 44 buckets, and got to the FT line 36 times. |
Recipe for success. |
Also check the turn overs |
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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:43 am Post subject: |
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This is the most excited I've been to watch the Lakers since 2020. Despite the front office hatred etc... here I am, excited to watch basketball again!
This is a deep team with a lot of potentially perfect synergy, and if the core here is held together over the summer, I think this squad is poised to make some noise next year if not THIS year.
Not just DLO, who I'm thrilled to have back with a few concerns. Vanderbilt, Beasley, Rui, Reaves, the subtraction of Westbrook, this just has the makings of a really great team. _________________ Austin Reaves
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Theseus Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:46 am Post subject: |
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The game felt like we were ahead by much more than we were and that is due to the missed FTs. The starting lineup is golden. Beasley is better defensively than I thought, and that was my main worry with putting him in the starting lineup. Now I think you have to |
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Hanging from Rafters Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:36 am Post subject: |
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I would like to see substitutions staggered and not rigidly conformed to preset plans. This would allow sticking with the hot hand offensively and sticking with good defensive matchups that are working well. Vandiβs time mirroring BI seems like it would have been a better decision that subbing him out for TBjr to stick with pre-set rotations. Also, It didnβt look like it was effective to see all five reserves on the court at the same time like against the Pelicans.
Also regarding the line up, AD and LBJ have to have some of their rest time overlap but some part should staggered so that there is less time when both are off the floor.
All that being saidβ¦I really enjoyed the starting unit and the he reserves. Playing the 3 former T-Wolves together (Dlo/Beasley/Vandi) was genius and could mitigate the challenges of integrating so many new players on the fly without trading camp/pre-season. It also helped to match existing Lakers (Schro/Reaves/TBjr/Rui) who have been playing together all season. _________________ βWhen it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like itβs a goal that canβt be denied. I didnβt see that this off season.β |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Theseus wrote: | The game felt like we were ahead by much more than we were and that is due to the missed FTs. The starting lineup is golden. Beasley is better defensively than I thought, and that was my main worry with putting him in the starting lineup. Now I think you have to |
A very under-rated aspect is the gravity he demands with his off-ball movement, even when he's cold. I don't mind him starting as long as we have Vandy taking the tougher wing assignment. The problem is that any team with two bigger wings (Clips, Celtics) will feast. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:15 am Post subject: |
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One more thing about the starting lineup, they assisted on every basket. 13 assists for 13 baskets in 13 minutes. Man it was beautiful.
That second lineup where Ham subbed out only Lebron for Troy actually had a better net rating than the starting lineup by about 7 points. Small sample size, but I hope it continues. _________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Darvin Ham said he'll stick with DLo, Malik and Vando in the starting lineup with LeBron and AD: "Weβre not gonna go crazy. Weβve already had a plethora of lineups and rotations, so weβre gonna settle in on what we did in this previous game going into the break." |
-Goon
That's my go to starting lineup as well. _________________ ππ π π π #18!!! |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 am Post subject: |
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epic_ wrote: | Quote: | Darvin Ham said he'll stick with DLo, Malik and Vando in the starting lineup with LeBron and AD: "Weβre not gonna go crazy. Weβve already had a plethora of lineups and rotations, so weβre gonna settle in on what we did in this previous game going into the break." |
-Goon
That's my go to starting lineup as well. |
Much better than anything we had earlier in the season. Vando can help out Davis with rebounding and defense and Russell can help out Legramps with offense. Beasley can just do what he does... chuck up mad 3's, hopefully at 40% plus. |
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cencio_999 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Beasley starting, rivers closing. |
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