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| Actually, I take back what I said about Oden fighting for position. I think it's been 5 minutes without his guards passing it into him in the post once. |
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Matta's gameplan: "Ok guys, I mean guards, just shoot as much as you can from outside. We have Greg Oden and he'll get all the rebounds for us. Just SHOOT from outside whenever you can."
This guy is a dumbass.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I must say, it doesn't look like Oden can hold his position against Horford, and it has nothing to do with foul trouble. |
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| TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | I must say, it doesn't look like Oden can hold his position against Horford, and it has nothing to do with foul trouble. |
Disagree. Horford is doing everything well fundamnetally. If ODen forces the issue, offensive foul.
Not worth it. Better to just give that up and stay in with the heavy interior D impact.
It's the guards lightining it up and opening the game for Florida.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Horford out playing everybody in this game hurt
Al Horford = a better H.Grant
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TIMMM
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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osu had a horrible game plan, why dont they actually GIVE the ball to oden? 
oden is easily the best player on the floor. noah is so overrated |
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^Conley Jr. is the only guy with any kind of real post passing ability.
That emphasizes just how important it is to have multiple players with that ability, especially against a zone defense.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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It had been so long since Oden saw the ball down low he couldn't handle it  |
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Al Horford = a better H.Grant |
I don't know, he looks more like Karl Malone. He's got a fluid jumpshot out to 20'. |
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Mike@LG
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^Fast double team.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | I must say, it doesn't look like Oden can hold his position against Horford, and it has nothing to do with foul trouble. |
Disagree. Horford is doing everything well fundamnetally. If ODen forces the issue, offensive foul.
Not worth it. Better to just give that up and stay in with the heavy interior D impact.
It's the guards lightining it up and opening the game for Florida. |
I meant when Oden is on defense. Horford seems to be getting to spot that he wants to get to, regardless of whether he gets the ball or not.
Don't get me wrong, I think very highly of Oden. I just don't think his man defense is as flawless as some are saying it is. His help D is off the charts though. |
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Al Jefferson better developed.
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Ohio St. needs a big-name, veteran coach. Their current one is a (bleep).
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Oden looks lost and tired to me.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I meant when Oden is on defense. Horford seems to be getting to spot that he wants to get to, regardless of whether he gets the ball or not.
Don't get me wrong, I think very highly of Oden. I just don't think his man defense is as flawless as some are saying it is. His help D is off the charts though. |
I disagree. Once again, based on foul trouble.
It's arrested him on both ends of the floor.
Of course it doesn't help that Oden still isn't good enough shape to play 35mpg.
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| jminges wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Al Horford = a better H.Grant |
I don't know, he looks more like Karl Malone. He's got a fluid jumpshot out to 20'. |
Maybe it's his number subconsciously affecting my thinking, but he reminds me a lot of Brand, actually. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | I must say, it doesn't look like Oden can hold his position against Horford, and it has nothing to do with foul trouble. |
Disagree. Horford is doing everything well fundamnetally. If ODen forces the issue, offensive foul.
Not worth it. Better to just give that up and stay in with the heavy interior D impact.
It's the guards lightining it up and opening the game for Florida. |
To me, it seems like that Oden didn't try as hard because of the score, and Hortford caught him by surprise. However, Hortford is only 245 lbs(although he looks bigger), if that's true, then that's a bit concerning for Oden because that's undersized in the NBA. |
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| Car54 wrote: | | Oden looks lost and tired to me. |
He is. At least he still guards the house even if he isn't fed.
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, he looks totally gassed out there |
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| F Snaq wrote: | | Ohio St. needs a big-name, veteran coach. Their current one is a (bleep). |
I blame that on the talent, not the coach.
Thad Matta is the guy that made Butler overacheive in the NCAA tournament, which was exactly how he got to Ohio State in the first place.
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Ohio States guard play, or lack thereof, is killing them. College ball, guard play decides everything.
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| Quote: | | To me, it seems like that Oden didn't try as hard because of the score, and Hortford caught him by surprise. However, Hortford is only 245 lbs(although he looks bigger), if that's true, then that's a bit concerning for Oden because that's undersized in the NBA. |
You say score. I say lack of conditioning. Not because he can't, he's just out of steam.
Though I find it a bit ironic that you say that, because Bynum out of HS got posted up by non-NBA talent and scored at will in the SPL by guys 6'10" 240.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: |
Al Jefferson better developed. |
Jefferson dont have that mid-range shot, but has a better low-post game
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| magic_bryant wrote: | | Ohio States guard play, or lack thereof, is killing them. College ball, guard play decides everything. |
Agree |
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| jminges wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Al Horford = a better H.Grant |
I don't know, he looks more like Karl Malone. He's got a fluid jumpshot out to 20'. |
thats takeing it to far..Karl is one the best pfs ever...maybe a poormans Malone....Thats Malone,Grant,Jefferson and Brand that we have said he reminds us of
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